i type in the command icecast2 -c icecast.xml and nothign happens.. if you're waiting for console output, there is none. no, i mean in terminal..it's not doing anything.. you're shitting me right? no, why? does apache have console output, no... i don't know.. but it should have some! er, why? bluefox@debian:/etc/icecast2$ icecast2 -c icecast.xml <--all i get to see yeah, wtf do you want? anoncvs does not work for shout cvs login... it's a streaming server, not doom3