Oct 27 21:37:13 <dragonboy_>	heh that T61p looks nice as well... nice ricoh firewire too :->
Oct 27 21:37:32 <Cory5412-M>	T61P is basically the Ultimate Mobile Computer :P
Oct 27 21:37:34 <techfury90>	ricoh firewire?
Oct 27 21:37:39 <techfury90>	as opposed to what? THEY'RE ALL THE SAME
Oct 27 21:37:46 <dragonboy_>	Ti :p
Oct 27 21:37:55 <techfury90>	what's wrong with TI?
Oct 27 21:38:06 <Cory5412-M>	TI firewire chipsets are the best for Fake-DM10
Oct 27 21:38:08 <Aeroraptor>	TI makes good parts
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Oct 27 21:38:16 <dragonboy_>	and for some reason Ti has been rather quite unfriendly to individual people asking about their products (especially there's several threads on the open graphic mailing list about this too)
Oct 27 21:38:21 <techfury90>	dragonboy_, uhm.
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Oct 27 21:38:31 <techfury90>	almost ALL firewire chipsets
Oct 27 21:38:37 <techfury90>	are identical in the interface
Oct 27 21:38:37 <ghmd>	dragboy,, that makes no sense...
Oct 27 21:38:39 <techfury90>	like the commands used.
Oct 27 21:39:16 <Aeroraptor>	dude, the chips are on the mobo, which is made by lenovo or whoever, why would you go to TI for FW support?
Oct 27 21:39:21 <Aeroraptor>	that is so totally useless
Oct 27 21:39:29 <hexstar>	sweet now I'm on leopard! :D
Oct 27 21:39:33 <techfury90>	Aeroraptor, or rather yet
Oct 27 21:39:37 <techfury90>	i wish dragonboy would make up his mind
Oct 27 21:39:39 <techfury90>	its been what? a year now?
Oct 27 21:39:46 <techfury90>	since he's been pondering a new machine
Oct 27 21:39:47 <techfury90>	or something
Oct 27 21:39:48 <Aeroraptor>	yeah... just buy a computer dude
Oct 27 21:39:49 <dragonboy_>	ghmd...well thats the way it appears...also connexant seem to refuse to release any details of any of their products to individuals as well
Oct 27 21:39:54 <techfury90>	dragonboy_, why DOES IT MATTER?
Oct 27 21:39:58 <techfury90>	if the driver freaking WORKS
Oct 27 21:40:00 <techfury90>	i don't care
Oct 27 21:40:05 <ghmd>	dragboy: good. individuals are annoying
Oct 27 21:40:12 <Aeroraptor>	your so freaking picky, you'll never buy a computer
Oct 27 21:40:13 <dragonboy_>	but can drivers even be written by anyone outside them at all?
Oct 27 21:40:19 <techfury90>	why would they ever need to be?
Oct 27 21:40:35 <dragonboy_>	try write a full working drivers for any new nvidia gpus without having to be inside their company to start with?
Oct 27 21:40:41 <techfury90>	why would you need to write a driver?
Oct 27 21:40:42 <Aeroraptor>	wtf
Oct 27 21:40:48 <Aeroraptor>	you're making so little sense
Oct 27 21:40:49 <techfury90>	*why* would you need to?
Oct 27 21:41:56 <dragonboy_>	why do you think a lot of people are wanting to have open access to writing drivers especially for gpus to start with?
Oct 27 21:42:06 <techfury90>	i don't know
Oct 27 21:42:07 <ghmd>	whiny linux nerds != a lot of people
Oct 27 21:42:15 <dragonboy_>	ghmd..not just linux alone
Oct 27 21:42:25 <techfury90>	i've never had problems with video drivers.
Oct 27 21:42:33 <techfury90>	dragonboy_, BUY SOMETHING AND BE HAPPY
Oct 27 21:42:38 <techfury90>	until then, stop annoying us with your nonstop questioning.
Oct 27 21:42:46 <techfury90>	that is all.
Oct 27 21:42:51 <dragonboy_>	techfury..wasn't that the point of the tibook a long time ago duh?
Oct 27 21:43:09 <techfury90>	dragboy, you never bought it
Oct 27 21:43:12 <techfury90>	you can't pick something
Oct 27 21:43:13 <bubblemanTiBook>	dude, just shut up and buy a freaking laptop already
Oct 27 21:43:18 <techfury90>	you just keep changing your mind
Oct 27 21:43:22 <techfury90>	and nothing satisfies you
Oct 27 21:43:24 <dragonboy_>	techfury..nope I didn't