Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: !admin del tilde tilde is no longer a vHost admin. !admin del ragnaparadise ragnaparadise is no longer a vHost admin. !admin suspend talleh talleh has been suspended from the vHost service. !admin suspend lfmbstyle lfmbstyle has been suspended from the vHost service. Tilde says: ah Tilde says: so Tilde says: i got fired completely? Tilde says: lol ok XD Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I guess, did you talk to her at all? Tilde says: no Tilde says: don't see her as "online" Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: uh Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: might want to drop off DaNet, then Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: drop into Tilde says: why? Tilde says: i got fired? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: well, Shauna offered a chance to talk the situation over with everyone involved. Tilde says: i asked you several times Tilde says: if she was talking Tilde says: >_< Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: because of my relatively unimportant position I have retained a spot on hostsetting Tilde says: so Tilde says: she's alive now then? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Yes. Tilde says: righto Tilde says: left a message Tilde says: no reply Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: no clue Tilde says: i find this entire thing Tilde says: bullcrap Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: last active message at 24 minutes past the hour Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: about 12 minutes ago Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: heh... there is some resemblance of missing you in the staff room o.O Tilde says: o.o? Tilde says: dairc? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: That's a point, where is Tilde? I haven't seen her for ages. Or been annoyed by her, for ages. she has not been around much Last time i saw her she was in a fight with jenn aka Noesis Tilde says: is Tilde says: wolfdog Tilde says: staff? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: he's half op in there Tilde says: oh Tilde says: god... Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I think he's a trainee Tilde says: seriously Tilde says: oh Tilde says: god Tilde says: >_< Tilde says: he got glined Tilde says: several times i beleive Tilde says: >.> Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: probably knows the right people. Tilde says: are they that despirate? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: well, smoke's been promoted to AS staff Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: they're 6 people short Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: meh shes fired anyways Tilde says: well now i can say this Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: oookay, not a good sign Tilde says: shauna is one biased whore. Tilde says: there that had to get off my shoulders Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I'll stop quoting, then Tilde says: to shauna or? Tilde says: XD Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: eh? to you Tilde says: why? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I haven't said a word to shauna after she grudgedly said I could stay Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: it seems to upset you. Tilde says: oh Tilde says: it doesn't Tilde says: shauna just pisses me off Tilde says: because she's completely biased Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Well, her significant other IS the owner of the network that you're apparently competing with Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I'm not saying this entitles her to anything, I'm just saying her stance is at least understandable. Tilde says: i'm competing? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: in their eyes. Tilde says: lol at them. Tilde says: seren will be... Tilde says: pissed off Tilde says: XD Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: and seren sure as hell didn't help matters. Tilde says: what did he do then? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: didn't you say he was the one to actively pull people over to Toxin by the channelful? Tilde says: well Tilde says: yeah Tilde says: because he's pissed off at shauna Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: wasn't he in AS? Tilde says: yes Tilde says: he was Tilde says: still Tilde says: shauna is HORRIBLY biased Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I... think I'll have to side with DaIRC on this one, he's got access to sensitive stuff there. Tilde says: "yes dm joined but shes my friend she gets to stay" "talleh joined but she's demoted" Tilde says: BIASED? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Well, DM was the only one that did discuss this with them Tilde says: well Tilde says: AFTERWARDS Tilde says: 2 freaking hours Tilde says: before all hell broke loose Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: o.O just 2 hours? I thought it was at least 2 days Tilde says: no. Tilde says: two hours before everything happened Tilde says: she talked to them Tilde says: and she still opered up Tilde says: and gladly used her power to issue kills Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Oh. She had DaIRC's interests in mind first and foremost. Tilde says: right... Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I'm fairly certain she was killing appropriate targets. Tilde says: "/birthday kills" Tilde says: +/ Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: sounds appropriate to me, ain't a proper birthday without one Tilde says: one issues glines for that. Tilde says: however Tilde says: HA HA @ DAIRC no bday kills on me. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I didn't get one either, I was practically asking for one >.> Tilde says: they planned to kill me for days Tilde says: ah well Tilde says: this should make paul happy Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: people can be so inconsiderate sometimes... Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: eh, this just means you can take over Toxin again Tilde says: i know. Tilde says: but lem Tilde says: lemming Tilde says: i don't even give a fuck i got fired Tilde says: i'm pissed off that they demoted talleh/serend/ect Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: aqua sounds oddly cheering right now Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Well honestly, what seren did was rather in poor taste Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Talleh is only suspended I believe because she hasn't had a chance to explain Tilde says: so? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: same with lfmb Tilde says: they didn't state that what they did Tilde says: was against rules Tilde says: in the first place Tilde says: since they did not MAKE them before hand Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: No, the rules were there before Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I wasn't aware that they applied to other IRC servers, however. Tilde says: no Tilde says: the rules were AS QUOTED Tilde says: "game servers" Tilde says: and for as i know Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: but they did make clear that staff positions on private servers was a dangerous mix Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: yes. Tilde says: IRC != game servers. Tilde says: the rules shauna made Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: like I said, I did not know that they applied to IRC servers. Tilde says: stated "/GAME SERVER/" Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Tilde Tilde says: litteraly, it said game servers lemming Tilde says: not irc Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: I'm fairly certain Talleh and lfmb are perfectly able to explain themselves. Tilde says: still Tilde says: that's like Tilde says: "well you're not allowed to eat cowmeat" Tilde says: and afterwards Tilde says: "you're not allowed to eat pigs meat either, you're fired" Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: shauna is not unreasonable, if they can explain themselves I'm certain their positions will be not be compromised. Tilde says: then Tilde says: why is dm not demoted? Tilde says: oh right she's shaunas friend Tilde says: i call that very unreasonably Tilde says: unreasonable* Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Well, she's a friend to the point where she can apparently auth herself as shauna. Tilde says: that makes it "ok" for her to break rules Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: and she apparently knows them in person as well. Tilde says: it's biased. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: o.O if Delta broke a rule would he have to be removed as owner? Tilde says: is dm the owner? Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: bias can't be helped. Tilde says: then if they "exempt" one Tilde says: they should exempt every single one of them Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: no, but you sure as hell wouldn't demote your real life friend over something like that one Tilde says: uhm Tilde says: i wouldn't, i would've treated everyone the same Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Then again, you'd probably wouldn't give a shit what other people do outside your network. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: my personal opinion is that they shouldn't care what goes on beyond their network if it does not affect them. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: but working AS does mean make that line a bit blurry. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: since it goes under 'might affect them' Tilde says: http://drstein.chatadventista.com/ Tilde says: guy that made adminserv. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: yeah, and he ain't handing the code out to every joe out there Tilde says: no Tilde says: he's selling it Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: which according to you, Delta is taking actions against Tilde says: however, what i'm using and what i received from the guy Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: so I'm guessing at the very least that Delta believes there may be a security issue. Tilde says: doesn't even look alike anymore Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: look at it this way, if you managed to find a bug in the AS code Tilde says: "a" bug? Tilde says: XD Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: you can (not WOULD) easily ruin DA over it. Tilde says: "a" bug? XD!!!! Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: and where would Delta be in all this? Tilde says: there are Tilde says: HUNDREDS of bugs Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: even one is bad enough Tilde says: and so many of them Tilde says: easily exploitable Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: see? Tilde says: actually Tilde says: i might tell the idiot brs on how to exploit it Tilde says: >_> Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: and staff that operate that code are just as dangerous to have roaming free Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: that's just being petty. Tilde says: so? Tilde says: being biased Tilde says: is just as bad Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: is human Tilde says: well Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: You have biases as well, Tilde. Tilde says: revenge is human aswell. Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says: Yes, but let's face it, even IF things work out with talleh and lfmb, your attack is going to put them in a bad light again AAAAAND † Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said: mmmm well i dunno theres not much to talk about is there? you havent even hit a spot in the top 20 of ppl in support in about a month and you had the other irc.. i guess u pretty much know your access has been removed Tilde said: guess that's it then † Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said: guess so Tilde said: then, what about talleh? ect? † Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said: lemming was allowed to stay on due to his limited involvement in the issue, talleh, lfmb and angus were/are offered vop positions but no longer have full staff access. same applies to seren if i could talk to him