[13:14:41] <eagle15> The op list was filled the same way that any other government vacancy is filled.
[13:14:51] <Lockwood> popularity
[13:14:58] <AlexLorien> exactly
[13:15:06] <eagle15> Wow, you guys really have no idea what you're talking about.
[13:15:13] <eagle15> And that's pretty darn insulting to my entire presidency, so thanks.
[13:15:20] <Lockwood> "My name's Paul, and I'm a cynic."
[13:15:33] <AlexLorien> lol
[13:15:37] <AlexLorien> dont take it as an insult
[13:15:40] <eagle15> Um, it is.
[13:15:48] <Russ> it is Alex
[13:15:57] <eagle15> Considering I work my ASS off making sure that the right people are in the right job, no matter what their "popularity" in STF is.
[13:16:18] <AlexLorien> You know I love you, I think you are fabulous, but if this is an opinion, then...
[13:16:21] <eagle15> Not only is it insulting to me, but it's insulting to every government member in STF.
[13:16:22] <AlexLorien> There is no smoke without fire
[13:16:39] <eagle15> Um, it may be an opinion, but it's still flat-out wrong.
[13:16:46] <AlexLorien> lol! Sarah!
[13:16:48] <eagle15> Oddly enough, I think I'm the authoritative source on how I appoint people.
[13:16:52] <AlexLorien> How can it be wrong?!
[13:16:54] <eagle15> But maybe I should ask Russ...
[13:16:59] <eagle15> Russ, do you know better than I do how I appoint people?
[13:17:06] <AlexLorien> whoa whoa!
[13:17:07] <Russ> no I don't, Sarah
[13:17:30] <AlexLorien> There is no wrong in the opinions of others
[13:17:33] <AlexLorien> ever
[13:17:57] <eagle15> ... yes, there are.
[13:18:03] <eagle15> If it's my opinion that abuse is a-ok, I'm wrong.
[13:18:13] <AlexLorien> No one is abusing you!
[13:18:17] <eagle15> You might have an option of how something *appears*
[13:18:27] <eagle15> Er, pressed enter too fast.
[13:19:10] <eagle15> You might have an opinion that it *appears* to be a popularity contest and that's up to you, since that's your view on things; however, saying that you have an opinion that it *is* a popularity contest when I know that it *isn't* makes that opinion incorrect.
[13:19:38] <AlexLorien> Sarah honey. This isnt an attack, I love you far too much to ever attack you. It is a question of how something is done certainly. But if you are never questioned, how can you know what the people you represent feel?
[13:19:57] <eagle15> Um, the part where I usually go over any staff choices with them?
[13:20:08] <AlexLorien> with who?
[13:20:36] <eagle15> Sorry, I misread that.
[13:20:44] <AlexLorien> oh, np
[13:21:41] <eagle15> Frankly, I'm a member of STF too who deserves the same tone of respect and politeness that you'd use with anyone else.  I'm more than happy to answer a question about something, but being "questioned" about it isn't likely to be well-received.
[13:22:05] <eagle15> Nor is a response of "popularity" when I'm attempting to answer that question.
[13:22:22] <eagle15> If you read above, you'll see that you didn't even give me the opportunity to finish answering your question before you agreed with Paul.