I talked with EMC today and they are willing to also bundle 10 resource days of dedicated support for planning, support and provide knowledge transfers about the environment, SNAP and the Powerpath technology. The discussion is really about introducing a new storage vendor, having stronger integration between Oracle and potential for leveraging support from the hosting sites. With the multi-node RAC deployment, a platform with a projected storage growth exceeding 30Tb and increasing user dependencies, native integration becomes a key asset. Because we'll always have resource constraints, tool availability will be critical regardless if we use all them right away. Having that option will be priceless when we need it. If there is a large dependency on ZFS and we have any serious issues, the toolset to my knowledge is really Asif, and there is no native integration with Oracle. At the end of the day regardless of EMC tools or ZFS there is additional training required and does Austin's team have the tools needed to deploy, manage and grow into a Oracle RAC warehouse. I think its clear Sun sales, support and SE's have gotten too comfortable and their responses are lame. I personally believe Sun has been given ample opportunities to step up and many have expressed disappointment. EMC has consistently brought the best people forward and made resources available initially and working with them has been very efficient. It took Sun several months and a half dozen attempts to produce something even worth comparing. I look forward to hearing your feedback now and after your trip to the EMC/Oracle lab.