[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:03] mind to take you an interview for #UnderNet15 ? [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:04] meh, i don't "mind" [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] altho i don't see how a little noobie like me can say anything insightful ;) [11:28] <09BlackDon> * Logging FrieT to 'logs\FrieT.UnderNet.log' [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] you're an official (abuser) ;P so you have a word to say [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] since when ?;) when did you join undernet? [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] join or be active on it :] [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] join [11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] your very first day on undernet [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] wow, good question. i have been idling on undernet for quite a few years. before we started the company, so i guess that should be around 12 years now [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] but i only idled on it [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] to keep in touch with some people who were fond of it - i was not :) [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] you're an old timer [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] why undernet, and DUNNOWHAT.irc [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] ? [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] i'm no old timer by most standards, i just happened to know some people who were old timers and got me here to occasionally chat with them [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] i never personally cared that much for it, since all i saw were politics and cocky people :) i was looking in the wrnog places :) [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] wrong* [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] what made you got involved in official stuff. you're an oper. since when/how / [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] ? [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] i've been an oper since elsene* linked up again, since i sponsor / administer its network, i figured it would be handy to fix network level stuff and know what is going on in here [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] i still wasn't active [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] i became active because of some poor greek user asking me for help a good month or 2 ago :) [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] then i noticed some normal, non-cocky people were here as well. ;) [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] how do you find undernet? [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:11] well, my views of it have changed radically. I used to think of it as, well, politics and nothing much more than that [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:11] but i've come to know some very caring people [11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:12] it's still politics on most levels of course, but that's on a lot of networks [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] and it's needed too [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] by the way. about people. this interview is for undernet15.com and #UnderNet15 [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] do you find huggins as a clown ?:) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] he's definately a clown! [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] which means [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] a good one? [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] well [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] you know batman [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] the movie..;) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] he's more of a standup comedian in a sense [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] he tries to tackle some obvious but unspoken problems [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] on the other hand, on a personal level, we can be serious as well [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] official question:Do you think he's Competing abit against user-com? [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] so he's much like a clown in that regard, since a clown is only a clown when on stage. [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] Hmm, I'll try not to feed the trolls :-) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] a'right then;) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] let's see [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] do you consider that some things must be changed around? [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] well i'll still answer that Q tho ;) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] awesome;) [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:15] You might view it as competing, but it's not the reason why he gets involved [11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:15] usercom have to deal with politics [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] they can't go around and say whatever they want [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] a user can [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] he now realises that, I think / hope (told him a hundred times :) [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] I regret the fact that usercom isn't planning an event of their own anymore [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] its what I think too. this thing got way too deep into fights. shouldt be a competition [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] since there's an informative part as well. not just a fun part. huggins is good for the fun and organising that - usercom has more ties to the official stuff. [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] well, most competition is healthy - it just shouldn't get this ugly. [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:17] but then again, there's not much i can tell about the details, i'm afraid. Suffice to say i don't like the outcome, i'd rather have seen 2 events coexisting [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:17] you said you're new around. not quite, but..does your plans include undernet in the future? since you know how things roll around [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:18] Well, i've committed to quite a few projects, including usercom - so it'd be quite backwards of me to not include it in my future [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:19] obviously i'm past the old views i had about undernet by now [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:19] glad to hear. we're the second irc network, after quakenet. some said that we're half populated by drones and bots. what's your opinion regarding this issue [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:20] well, i'd love to hear who does NOT say we're half populated by drones ;-) [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:20] My opinion is that there's very committed people working on those issues [11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:21] sensitive question: will they act, and let us fall from top3 ? [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] which is good enough for me, since it will continue being worked on [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] I personally don't care about the top ranking.. [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] My IRC roots lie in now defunc networks [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] who topped at 200 users [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] so i used to be happy with top 1000 :) [11:32] <09Huggins> [11:31] sure [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] If the network becomes a better place for users to be in [11:32] <09Huggins> quick [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] then i don't care about its ranking usercount-wise [11:32] <09Huggins> go for it [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:23] that's interesting and also wise ;) are we gonna catch a 20 aniversary of undernet ? [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:23] sure we are. Even though there are flamers and trolls around, that doesn't mean they don't have the best interests of the network in mind [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] hang on, pc troubs [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] 5sec:) [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] someone hax0red FrieT [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:25] *G* [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] back [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] no, i'm on wifi, logs are being written over SMB [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] pretty slow :) [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] since i'm in too many chans [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:28] soo regarding if it'll last 5 years more [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:28] yeah, sure. too many committed people, even if some don't look like it, they are [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] people change, so do committees [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] it may not be in the top 3 by then, but that's another story obviously. [11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] do you think that there are major things that should be added, as improvements [11:33] <09Huggins> Ok interview Hjuler, like Now please :-) [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:29] ? [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] very personal opinion, haven't ever spoken to people about it, but i figure we need way more local operator [11:33] <09Huggins> damn dude [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] s [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] to keep more in touch with the userbase [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] and that's not a big change, it's just a mindset [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] irc operators are supposed to only care for network issues [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] but the network is built out of a few servers [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] and 100k users [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] i think the users outrank the servers :) [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] * BlackDon is totally free *G* [11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] j/k [11:33] <09BlackDon> I msg'ed him!