Session Start: Wed Nov 14 17:32:09 2007
Session Ident: #aight
[17:32] * Now talking in #aight
[17:32] * kastermester sets mode: +o lisa
[17:35] * killnnettime has joined #aight
[17:35] <killnnettime> halo
[17:35] * kastermester sets mode: +o killnnettime
[17:35] <kastermester> hey ya
[17:36] <lisa> hey =)
[17:36] <killnnettime> what can i do for us 
[17:36] <kastermester> Well... might as well get directly to it... i'm gonna have to retire... my real life health status is going worse than i was hoping for... i need a complete break :/
[17:36] <lisa> you read my pm i send you on forums yesterday Killn?
[17:36] <lisa> okies, kaster first
[17:37] <killnnettime> kastermester you catch this?
[17:37] <killnnettime> [11:35] <Sean> btw i want to make it clear - HU has lost my support for the tech side of HU, there are numerous reasons but you can all probably guess 90% of them
[17:37] <kastermester> yes i saw it
[17:37] <killnnettime> kk sorry lisa yes I got your pm
[17:38] <lisa> and you thought it was Trina who send it hihi
[17:38] <lisa> but np, Trina cleared up that confusion earlier i think
[17:39] <killnnettime> yeh you both have similiar concerns
[17:39] <lisa> you wrote your post in announcement after you read my message i suppose, so im guessing you didnt like the idea? =P i didnt expect you to, but i still wanted to shre it with you 
[17:39] <lisa> *share
[17:40] <killnnettime> which idea are we reffering to....I have found nothing unlikeable thus far
[17:42] <lisa> i think we should stop. stop fighting for pc, stop recruiting, stop everything really, give the staff a total and complete break. go back to being an irc channel, where friends can hang out and goof around
[17:42] <lisa> that idea
[17:44] <lisa> but its just and idea, and like i said in my message to you, i dont expect you to act on it
[17:45] <lisa> the thing is tho, if we dont stop swimming against the current as we're doing now.... i dont see how we can make it. i think a lot of staff will retire very soon
[17:45] <lisa> and i think kaster should retire aswell, thats what he wants, and he really needs to think of himself and his health right now
[17:46] <killnnettime> kastermester you want retirement?
[17:46] <kastermester> (17:36:53) <@kastermester> Well... might as well get directly to it... i'm gonna have to retire... my real life health status is going worse than i was hoping for... i need a complete break :/
[17:46] <kastermester> i'm afraid i have no option out... i need to get myself back in shape before i try to do anything else
[17:47] <kastermester> I hate to do it, especially just now... but i will end up doing more harm by not doing it, than by doing it... harm to both heart and myself
[17:48] <lisa> i truely dont believe that hes harming heart in any way.. but i so think he has to choose for himself for once
[17:49] <lisa> wich i why i wanted to talk to both of you in here killn, be open to you about what ive discussed with kaster over the past few days
[17:49] <killnnettime> Ok I will post a forum move back to invissionfree, remove myself from the position and give it to sean again.....I am getting a bit weak myself on this and to be spending the time and money is getting reduntant
[17:49] <lisa> didnt see that one coming
[17:49] <kastermester> i am sorry :/
[17:49] <kastermester> and no me either
[17:49] <killnnettime> its always day in day out listening to how we just aint gonna make it
[17:49] <lisa> so am i, sry
[17:50] <kastermester> i don't think heart can't make it though... but i am not capable of doing anything at the moment without harming my own health... these past few days has shown me that
[17:51] <killnnettime> yeh your health as I have always stated comes first, and grades second, then HEART
[17:51] <killnnettime> no need to feel anything diffrent than that
[17:51] <kastermester> i would want for heart to continue and i'd help out in what ways that it'd be possible for me to, from the retired bench... but for now i need the responsibilities gone so i can focus on the stuff that matters
[17:52] <killnnettime> I understand.....sorry I have not been able to get some of that off of you thus far
[17:52] <lisa> and what you dont need kaster is retiring, and then have a whole bunch of ppl on your pm, asking you for favors, and convincing you to un-retire. you need to truely let go imo
[17:52] <kastermester> i saw your post today, it was great... it just comes a bit too late i'm afraid :/
[17:53] <lisa> and so many ppl wont read it, or will but ignore it, and they all turn to kaster.. and kaster has a hard time saying 'no' to them
[17:55] <killnnettime> kastermester I am going to need you to assist me via e-mail for a few adjustments, don't post anything yet plz, and stay in the shadows for the day, I need to take one of those time outs for thought but I will need your help on this either way it goes
[17:57] <kastermester> sounds good to me... and sorry for letting you down
[17:57] <killnnettime> you didn't
[17:57] <killnnettime> and you won't
[17:57] <killnnettime> just need a little processing time
[17:57] <killnnettime> and lisa thanks fro your concerns here too
[17:57] <killnnettime> for*
[17:58] <lisa> im still concernd tbh
[17:58] <killnnettime> well makes two of us, but I generally find a way
[17:58] <lisa> what adjustments? i understand that you need help, but i dont think it should be ksaters responsability
[17:59] <killnnettime> lisa I don't think you know the plesk/ssl/tech stuff as he does
[17:59] <killnnettime> and you don't have the passes either
[17:59] <lisa> true, idont, but w/e work it is, leave it to some1 else, kaster needs a break
[17:59] <lisa> sry to be  a bitch, but its time some1 stood up for him
[18:00] <lisa> w/e heart units problems are, technical or otherwise, they are not his responsability
[18:01] <kastermester> killnnettime - if truly needed i will help with making the adjustments needed... but there are others that could take care of it... mule is strong within tech stuff too, and i believe he has proven himself more than worthy of the trust that comes with it
[18:01] <killnnettime> lisa i think kastermester understands what I am asking and it is just me that will need his help, and yes some1 will assist, but until i get that resolved i need some answers that only kastermester has
[18:01] <lisa> kaster needs out killn, hes got so much stuff to worry about atm, heart untis problems, or your problems, are NOT his responsability
[18:02] <lisa> and i dont like that you're giving him the feeling that they are
[18:03] <killnnettime> lisa I am not tring to express it that way and sorry if you feel that way, but the things i will need are simple questions answered
[18:03] <lisa> lets get some persepective, we're an internet community that enjoy spending tme 2gether cuz we all like rs. his schoolwork, and his HEALTH for christ sake, are much more important
[18:03] <killnnettime> aggreed
[18:03] <lisa> i hope they are killn, and i hope you get what im saying. simple questions answered, ip hope we're talking no more then 30 min work then?
[18:04] <killnnettime> no work at all...just chat
[18:04] <lisa> ok
[18:04] <kastermester> good... ty both of you
[18:04] <killnnettime> kastermester get some rest and I will forward my info needed to you soon
[18:05] <kastermester> i will... and thanks for your understanding
[18:05] <killnnettime> np
[18:05] <killnnettime> you been great
[18:05] <lisa> ok, ty killn for your time. i will post a retirement thread later on, and i am really sorry we all couldnt get this thing to work out as we hoped it would :(
[18:05] <kastermester> ty, you too
[18:05] <killnnettime> so lisa you up for retirement too
[18:06] <kastermester> sorry to bomb you with all these bad news :/
[18:06] <lisa> ye, i dunt think some1 that advices the head admin to retiire is gd staff material ^.~
[18:06] <lisa> like i said in my message
[18:07] <killnnettime> lisa did I miss something?
[18:07] <killnnettime> I never asked him to retire
[18:07] <lisa> i did
[18:07] <killnnettime> he said he wanted it
[18:08] <lisa> he does, but he feels a great responsability towards you, and heart unit
[18:08] <kastermester> lisa was talking about herself killn
[18:08] <lisa> i feel he should have his priorities straight, and needs to learn how to say no
[18:08] <lisa> and i will retire myself ye, sry to confuse you 
[18:09] <lisa> im not up for the fighting a lost cause anymore either, and im sry to say i feel continuing with heart unit as we have been is a lost cause
[18:11] <lisa> ok, thx again killn for your time
[18:11] <lisa> i need to go offline im afraid
[18:11] <killnnettime> my pleasure lisa
[18:12] <lisa> im sry , again
[18:12] <lisa> bye
Session Close: Wed Nov 14 18:12:21 2007