Nov 25 11:12:58 <savetheWorld>  %l Language please.  This is a family friendly channel. Channel rules: "Avoid using foul language"  full Channel rules can be read here --> http://tinyurl.com/2khdve
Nov 25 11:13:18 <savetheWorld>  <JamesTheFishy> U FOCKER! <-- not what we want people to say in front of 8 year old nieces
Nov 25 11:13:34 <JamesTheFishy> sorry
Nov 25 11:13:40 <savetheWorld>  ok
Nov 25 11:13:50 <JamesTheFishy> my question is how does an 8 year old know anything about linux?
Nov 25 11:14:48 <savetheWorld>  My 5 year old uses it every day.
Nov 25 11:14:59 <savetheWorld>  and has sinceshe was 4
Nov 25 11:15:03 <savetheWorld>  :0
Nov 25 11:15:04 <JamesTheFishy> ...
Nov 25 11:15:16 <JamesTheFishy> does she do something other than play gnome games?
Nov 25 11:15:19 <savetheWorld>  sorry that was supposed to eba smiley
Nov 25 11:15:24 <savetheWorld>  dang fingers
Nov 25 11:15:25 <JamesTheFishy> lol
Nov 25 11:15:34 <savetheWorld>   just washed 'em and I cant do a thing with 'em.
Nov 25 11:15:54 <JamesTheFishy> well does she?
Nov 25 11:16:07 <savetheWorld>  she sticks with kids sites, like pbskids.org, and barbie sites.
Nov 25 11:16:22 <savetheWorld>  so mostly browser based games
Nov 25 11:16:22 <JamesTheFishy> ...
Nov 25 11:16:33 <savetheWorld>  she uses "CentOS"
Nov 25 11:16:44 <JamesTheFishy> i can not classify that as using a real linux distro
Nov 25 11:16:52 <savetheWorld>  :-) so I can tease people who say Linux is too hard.
Nov 25 11:16:56 <JamesTheFishy> seeing its the same thing as using windows
Nov 25 11:17:04 <JamesTheFishy> or mac
Nov 25 11:17:05 <savetheWorld>  Not a real distro? why not?
Nov 25 11:17:34 <JamesTheFishy> well it is but its not like she knows any terminal commands
Nov 25 11:17:35 <JamesTheFishy> so shes not using linux
Nov 25 11:17:37 <JamesTheFishy> shes using a pc that she knows very little about
Nov 25 11:17:38 <savetheWorld>  Is RedHat Enterprise a real distro?
Nov 25 11:17:54 <JamesTheFishy> not untill u use it correctly
Nov 25 11:18:32 <savetheWorld>  "shes using a pc that she knows very little about"  That describes 99.999 % of the worlds popultion. Being able to use a PC that you know nothing about is a success story!  Not a drawback! :-)
Nov 25 11:18:46 <savetheWorld>  It means Linux is doing it right,
Nov 25 11:19:04 <JamesTheFishy> ...
Nov 25 11:19:07 <JamesTheFishy> not really
Nov 25 11:19:18 <JamesTheFishy> seeing most the world uses windows xp
Nov 25 11:19:21 <JamesTheFishy> or mac
Nov 25 11:19:27 <savetheWorld>  btw - I've been doing sfw development for 30 years, including working on the source of 5 different operating systems
Nov 25 11:19:39 <JamesTheFishy> thats nice...
Nov 25 11:19:51 <JamesTheFishy> it doesn't matter
Nov 25 11:19:54 <savetheWorld>  so you admint Linux is as easy to use as windows.
Nov 25 11:19:59 <JamesTheFishy> shes not really using the os...
Nov 25 11:20:07 <savetheWorld>  snortr.
Nov 25 11:20:14 <savetheWorld>  elitest attitude
Nov 25 11:20:20 <savetheWorld>  and vey ignorant
Nov 25 11:20:23 <savetheWorld>  *very
Nov 25 11:20:26 <JamesTheFishy> ...
Nov 25 11:20:39 <JamesTheFishy> well damn man
Nov 25 11:20:41 <JamesTheFishy> i am not saying linux is easier or harder
Nov 25 11:20:51 <JamesTheFishy> its about what u learn...
Nov 25 11:20:52 <savetheWorld>  do you insist that peoplewho use cars have manual control over the ignition timing?
Nov 25 11:21:10 <JamesTheFishy> psh like i care if they do
Nov 25 11:21:19 <JamesTheFishy> as long as they wont hit anyone if they dont its ok
Nov 25 11:21:26 <savetheWorld>  Did you know that the early automobiles people used to have to set the timeing, changing it dynamically as they drove the vehicle?
Nov 25 11:21:41 <JamesTheFishy> yup
Nov 25 11:22:05 <JamesTheFishy> now we have better technology
Nov 25 11:22:08 <savetheWorld>  good, then you understand that wedont want the generral populationto haveto do things like that.  its a waste of their time.
Nov 25 11:22:22 <JamesTheFishy> but its still a fact that shes not actually using the real os
Nov 25 11:22:39 <JamesTheFishy> just like if u give her webtv shes not really using the tv
Nov 25 11:22:50 <JamesTheFishy> shes using the web
Nov 25 11:22:55 <JamesTheFishy> just be done with it
Nov 25 11:23:07 <savetheWorld>  I dont want my shoulder replacementsurgeon to be fiddling with the OS while he is using the cad cam system that is shaping the implant that is going into my shoulder while my body is opened up on the table.
Nov 25 11:23:16 <savetheWorld>  The operation takes 5 hours already.
Nov 25 11:23:29 <JamesTheFishy> dude
Nov 25 11:24:01 <JamesTheFishy> what are u even talking about
Nov 25 11:24:07 <savetheWorld>  excellent analogy. we want the technology to dissapear behing the appliance. the PC shouldbe as easy and as safe as a TV to use.
Nov 25 11:24:24 <JamesTheFishy> but they are not
Nov 25 11:24:39 <JamesTheFishy> and tvs aren't that safe
Nov 25 11:24:55 <JamesTheFishy> besides if u really dont like my language u can set up a filter
Nov 25 11:25:10 <savetheWorld>  in joint replacement surgery today, the implant are customized to the patients joint, in real time during the surgery, by a computerized cad/cam NC milling system
Nov 25 11:26:06 <savetheWorld>  re: langaueg, you are mistaken.  You can usethe channel, but you must follow the rules. if you want a more liberal channel try ##linux-coders.
Nov 25 11:26:07 <JamesTheFishy> and?
Nov 25 11:26:14 <savetheWorld>  re surgery
Nov 25 11:26:14 <JamesTheFishy> seriously dude
Nov 25 11:26:36 <JamesTheFishy> thats fine
Nov 25 11:26:48 <savetheWorld>  do you want your surgean to have to waste any time fiddling with a computer while your body is opened on thetable?
Nov 25 11:26:58 <savetheWorld>  I sure don't.
Nov 25 11:26:59 <JamesTheFishy> but if u dont want ur 5 year old seeing that then dont expose her to it
Nov 25 11:27:05 <JamesTheFishy> dude what the fuck are you talking about
Nov 25 11:27:17 <savetheWorld>  I see we have an impasse.
Nov 25 11:27:30 <savetheWorld>  as well as an inablity to follow 2 threads at the same time.
Nov 25 11:27:32 <savetheWorld>  goddbye