Conversation with morph@m0rph.net.nz at Sat Dec  8 01:43:28 2007 on mj@paranoid.co.nz (msn)
(01:43:28) Morph: so whats going on?
(01:45:39) mj: ah long story
(01:45:48) mj: will talk to ya tomorrow about it
(01:45:52) mj: im naffed
(01:45:58) mj: need food
(01:46:02) Morph: your always naffed
(01:46:48) mj: lol
(01:46:56) mj: tiz true these days :(
(01:47:22) Morph: so carry on :P
(01:59:02) mj: cooking sosij
(01:59:13) Morph: so while thats cooking
(01:59:16) Morph: do continue
(01:59:38) mj: lol
(01:59:48) mj: na I just wanna get stoned
(01:59:52) mj: tomorrow
(02:00:03) mj: been talking about this for ages
(02:00:13) mj: ands just wana turn the brain off
(02:00:20) Morph: well so do i
(02:00:21) mj: but will talk tomorrow
(02:00:24) Morph: i have no drugs
(02:00:25) Morph: no booze
(02:00:26) mj: :(
(02:00:30) Morph: not a happy person aye
(02:00:32) mj: I've had booze
(02:00:37) Morph: chicks are fucking me around also
(02:00:39) mj: want weed


Conversation with morph@m0rph.net.nz at Sat Dec  8 02:02:32 2007 on mj@paranoid.co.nz (msn)
(02:02:32) Morph: so tell me
(02:02:36) Morph: whats going on damm you
(02:02:48) mj: lol
(02:02:53) mj: well asd you know
(02:02:59) mj: ravest is being demoted
(02:03:06) mj: BUT
(02:03:15) mj: I want to make a new staff member level
(02:03:23) mj: so that people like him
(02:03:26) mj: are still staff
(02:03:32) mj: but irc staff
(02:03:42) mj: and have access to staff forums
(02:03:49) mj: but are not tracker staff
(02:04:04) mj: tracker staff need to be people who staff the tracker
(02:04:17) mj: not just be staff for the hell of it
(02:04:40) Morph: then drop jizah/cg/clarketus
(02:04:52) Morph: and maybe eclipse
(02:05:03) mj: eclispe does a lot
(02:05:11) mj: clark/cg nothing
(02:05:15) mj: jizah ... hmmmmmmm
(02:05:28) Morph: jizah has become very cockly lately
(02:05:36) mj: lol he always has been
(02:05:46) mj: and he knows from me he has to pull finger
(02:05:51) Morph: i notice it myself after a few people menchinded it to me
(02:05:57) mj: been telliong me to demote staff
(02:06:02) Morph: nah hes always been cocky
(02:06:09) mj: and im like " so then you will start to do something?"
(02:06:12) Morph: but even more so in the past month
(02:06:23) mj: yeah
(02:06:36) mj: well I want to make an initial trim
(02:06:44) mj: then see where it goes from there
(02:06:49) mj: as I said though
(02:06:55) Morph: i admit i should prolly do more , but i like the approach of sitting back and reading and watching
(02:06:55) mj: I want to make a new staff level
(02:07:08) mj: so peeps don't look as it as a demotion as such
(02:07:10) mj: well for some
(02:07:16) mj: claek gone
(02:07:25) mj: agreed by ezero
(02:07:34) mj: yeah
(02:07:35) Morph: well,
(02:07:36) mj: prob is
(02:07:44) mj: all staff sit back and read/watch
(02:07:53) Morph: Get a new cataglory made for me and you as staff admin
(02:07:57) mj: phantom is busy (as ya'd expect)
(02:08:09) mj: and nick is busy even since I gave him a bollocking
(02:08:09) Morph: cause i know for a fact i'm not a devloper :P
(02:08:36) Morph: i also feel all staff need to know there place
(02:08:43) mj: yup
(02:08:46) mj: tru dat
(02:08:58) Morph: like i had an argument with nick a while back when he was over riding my decisions
(02:09:04) Morph: i said this to him
(02:09:19) Morph: You are a Mod , I AM AN ADMIN , stop fucking overriding my decisions
(02:09:30) Morph: hes just like oh your just trying to stand over me ect
(02:09:54) mj: yeah staff overriding staff has always been a prob
(02:10:01) Morph: i want a more clear cut thin line where you fuck off the higher staff you are gone
(02:10:02) mj: prime example tonight
(02:10:12) mj: I demoted ravest after talking to ezero about it
(02:10:19) mj: then he promoted him to mod
(02:10:29) mj: because ravest want happy
(02:10:32) mj: as I later found out
(02:10:38) Morph: and he still isn't
(02:10:45) mj: ezero can't be/doesn't wan to be the bad guy
(02:10:58) mj: so promoted for now
(02:11:08) Morph: well he was telling me to promote nick
(02:11:16) Morph: and i'm like wtf , where did all this come along?
(02:11:26) mj: lol
(02:11:52) mj: well I told ezero to make a coder level
(02:11:59) mj: and out himself in it
(02:12:03) mj: and that level is not staff
(02:12:10) mj: then let me control the staff
(02:12:14) mj: he is all in for that
(02:12:23) mj: then he cannot promote users
(02:12:35) mj: (without doing it directly in the db)
(02:12:46) mj: he would rather that be the way
(02:12:53) mj: then he can say "I can't"
(02:13:10) Morph: so all the staff who are there now (incl me ) what is your plan?
(02:13:34) mj: not 100% sure on a couple things but
(02:14:02) mj: ravest and vent demoted to uploaders
(02:14:09) mj: clark demoted to user
(02:14:27) mj: cg unsure for now - probably demoted to mod
(02:14:36) mj: phantom promoted to op
(02:14:45) mj: bofh unsure
(02:14:53) mj: this is why I need a new staff level
(02:15:02) mj: bofh does fuckall on the site
(02:15:07) mj: but does a lot for the site
(02:15:14) mj: so needs to be staff
(02:15:34) mj: thinking make new userlevels
(02:15:41) mj: you and bofh sysops
(02:15:48) mj: me whatever the fuck is left over
(02:15:55) Morph: nah
(02:15:59) mj: so maybe you bofh me sysops
(02:16:08) Morph: don't want bofh on the same level as him
(02:16:11) Morph: me*
(02:16:18) mj: why not
(02:16:25) Morph: hes fustrates me a lot
(02:16:37) mj: he wopuld be removed altogether is he didn't actually do anything
(02:16:42) mj: oh lol
(02:16:46) mj: he frustrates me more
(02:16:47) mj: but
(02:16:53) mj: he contributes a lot to the site
(02:17:00) mj: all you do is host images
(02:17:03) mj: and ban people
(02:17:11) mj: so see my quandry
(02:17:21) mj: I would remove him 
(02:17:28) mj: but he does a lot for the site
(02:17:28) Morph: well if you want to demote me thats all up to you man
(02:17:34) mj: I didn't say that
(02:17:46) mj: I think havin you on board is good
(02:18:00) mj: throws something extra into the mix lol
(02:18:09) Morph: haha , thanks i guess?
(02:18:13) mj: lol
(02:18:15) Morph: well , 
(02:18:24) mj: turning my sosij
(02:18:25) Morph: make a new level of Staff Admin
(02:18:34) Morph: you and me in there
(02:18:38) Morph: keep bofh as admin
(02:18:58) Morph: cg goes
(02:19:01) Morph: jizah goes
(02:19:06) Morph: same with clark
(02:19:20) Morph: ravest/vent/phanny stay as mod
(02:19:28) Morph: and i guess keep nick in there too
(02:19:46) Morph: or move nick to admin?
(02:19:54) mj: one admin?
(02:20:04) mj: only admin can modify users
(02:20:11) mj: and bofh does nothing
(02:20:23) Morph: well, ok
(02:20:35) Morph: this is how i think it should go then
(02:20:36) mj: nick..no way for admin
(02:20:47) mj: not yet anyway
(02:21:34) Morph: Bofh goes to mod , ravest/phanny/nick stay as mod
(02:21:47) Morph: but then still leaves the question who goes admin?
(02:22:12) mj: phantom is my first choice for admin
(02:22:26) Morph: yes , but as we both know he has no time for it
(02:22:30) mj: not afraid to make a decision - discuss it with staff
(02:22:39) mj: he has more time than most
(02:22:42) mj: well
(02:22:46) mj: makes more time
(02:22:48) mj: and
(02:22:54) mj: he is the most active staff member
(02:23:01) Morph: hmmm true that
(02:23:41) Morph: but we would want 2 admins?
(02:24:50) Morph: or , where do you want me?
(02:30:10) Morph: well?
(02:30:21) mj: sosij
(02:30:26) Morph: -.-
(02:31:04) mj: this is why I said ^^ rather discuss it tomorrow
(02:31:15) mj: my head hurts thinking about things atm
(02:31:25) Morph: as always
(02:31:32) mj: need to have a clear head and struture it right
(02:31:44) mj: how as always?
(02:31:57) mj: its fukkin 2.30 am in the morning
(02:31:59) Morph: oh you know what i mwan
(02:32:02) Morph: yeah
(02:32:04) mj: I said I didn't want to talk about it 
(02:32:12) mj: and uve pressed me for 20 minutes
(02:32:16) mj: and im trying to eat
(02:32:17) Morph: how often arn't you at your comp @ this time of the morning
(02:32:21) Morph: fuck it
(02:32:23) Morph: ttyl
(02:32:41) mj: and all im hearing is you in charge and demote everyone else
(02:32:50) Morph: meh
(02:32:54) Morph: \i'll demote myself
(02:32:58) mj: 2 hours of sysop and listen to you
(02:33:10) Morph: makes things easier
(02:33:21) mj: you said this once before
(02:33:40) mj: which isn't what some who wants to be staff admin should do
(02:33:57) mj: I don't understand that
(02:34:13) Morph: well, i'm trying to get some kinda idea what your trying to do
(02:34:18) mj: you shud want to be staff admin to make the tracker go in a direction
(02:34:25) Morph: i havn't hear really anything of real sence
(02:34:28) mj: yeah lol
(02:34:31) mj: but I said earlier
(02:34:34) mj: tomorrow
(02:34:40) mj: and you want ansewrs now
(02:34:41) Morph: just moaning about your solji
(02:34:44) mj: when I don't have them
(02:34:50) mj: OH FUCK ME

(02:34:59) mj: first thing I've had to eat today
(02:35:15) Morph: well before you started doing ANY demotion you should of had some real idea
(02:35:19) Morph: its like
(02:35:21) Morph: you own a bussniess
(02:35:25) mj: while you sayt on you are ass I've worked 16 fucked hours
(02:35:32) Morph: walk in one day thinking i gotta restructure
(02:35:36) mj: 90 hours this week
(02:35:38) Morph: firstb guy you see you fire
(02:35:47) Morph: then think shit , he actually did somethingf
(02:35:49) mj: 41 days in the last 6 weeks
(02:35:53) mj: sorry for wanting food
(02:36:10) Morph: i ate a shitload of mash and gravy tonight ^^
(02:36:18) mj: well you are sysop
(02:36:23) mj: so you go make some changes
(02:36:26) Morph: no
(02:36:31) mj: demote who you think should be demoted
(02:36:35) Morph: your the one with the vision
(02:36:36) mj: why not?
(02:36:41) mj: you are sysop
(02:36:55) mj: trying to influence me
(02:37:04) mj: if you want to be staff leader
(02:37:08) mj: then make some decisions
(02:37:12) Morph: i'm just putting in my 2c
(02:37:19) mj: don't criticise me for wanting some food
(02:37:23) Morph: well 5c
(02:37:32) mj: and taking my time on something I have been thingkoing about for a while
(02:37:36) Morph: actually fuck it , i'm putting in my dollar
(02:37:48) mj: which is?
(02:37:55) Morph: doesn't matter what it is
(02:38:05) mj: get rid of jizah because he does nothing
(02:38:09) Morph: your going to cristcise me for anything i said
(02:38:11) mj: keep ravest
(02:38:13) Morph: say*
(02:38:19) mj: keep you as staff admin
(02:38:24) mj: but as long as I do it
(02:38:27) mj: and you do nothing
(02:38:28) Morph: all i have seen jizah do in the last month is be a complete cock in irc
(02:38:31) mj: but you are boss too
(02:38:38) mj: ok
(02:38:44) mj: from a different point of view
(02:38:47) Morph: i'll start running my mouth in irc
(02:38:47) mj: how are you diffeent?
(02:39:01) mj: you don't do anythhing on the reacker
(02:39:02) Morph: sounds good to be like the old DC days
(02:39:10) mj: but delete posts against you and users you don't like
(02:39:18) Morph: i deleted one
(02:39:31) mj: im just making an observation
(02:39:34) Morph: where something ( very serious) was being taken out of complete context
(02:39:35) mj: how is it different
(02:39:45) mj: jizah is still the same jizah he has always been
(02:39:53) Morph: no he isn't
(02:39:56) mj: I haven't noticed this new cockiness
(02:40:08) mj: he has always been cocky
(02:40:15) Morph: but i've saud what i have wanted to say
(02:40:39) mj: so its not  new just taken you a while to say it then?
(02:40:48) mj: im, just trying to understand
(02:41:01) Morph: last  month i have noticed/been told by a few people
(02:41:03) mj: the way I see it he has always been the same
(02:41:11) mj: ah
(02:41:20) mj: well I ahvent heard anything
(02:41:26) mj: and I watch him in irc 
(02:41:29) Morph: well they wont say anything to you
(02:41:31) mj: and he is the same
(02:41:34) mj: always the same
(02:41:36) Morph: they know you guys are tight
(02:41:41) mj: lol
(02:41:58) mj: that's a lame copout
(02:42:08) mj: if we were to get rid of staff for being cocky
(02:42:20) mj: then bofh jizah and you would all be gone
(02:42:27) Morph: and you
(02:42:34) mj: yup 
(02:42:37) Morph: your cocky
(02:42:38) mj: to a lesser degree
(02:42:43) Morph: but its in very easy moderation
(02:42:47) mj: well bring it on morph
(02:42:51) mj: get it off ya chest now
(02:43:06) Morph: i've never really had a problem with you
(02:43:20) Morph: even in the DC days
(02:43:29) mj: my point is/was
(02:43:34) mj: jizah is the same
(02:43:53) mj: now user having a probwith him in irc must be new
(02:44:02) mj: because he is the same book
(02:44:12) mj: that I've read many times
(02:44:30) mj: not that any of this
(02:44:40) mj: suggests I don't think he should be demoted
(02:44:46) mj: I've told him myself
(02:44:57) mj: when he has asked me to demote other staff
(02:45:06) mj: he does nothing
(02:45:13) mj: and do most staff
(02:45:28) Morph: i'll tell you what
(02:45:34) mj: apart from me, phantom and recently nick ... no one else does anything
(02:45:37) Morph: Make sure list tommorrow
(02:45:43) Morph: your*
(02:46:00) Morph: base it completly off what you think people are doing/ what should happen
(02:46:58) mj: or how about I just go back to my thing and let you run the tracker
(02:47:08) mj: seeing as this is what I suspect you want
(02:47:15) mj: you want to control it
(02:47:29) Morph: well not really
(02:47:34) Morph: i can say the same for you
(02:47:37) mj: but you want to be staff admin
(02:47:41) Morph: but i'm not going too
(02:47:45) mj: oh lol
(02:47:51) mj: you are a spiteful little cunt
(02:47:58) mj: lost a lot of respect for you tonight
(02:48:02) Morph: good
(02:48:10) mj: oh lol
(02:48:17) mj: good
(02:48:22) mj: that is morph from dc
(02:48:26) Morph: now go make your list
(02:49:00) mj: already started


Conversation with morph@m0rph.net.nz at Sat Dec  8 03:01:15 2007 on mj@paranoid.co.nz (msn)
(03:01:15) morph@m0rph.net.nz: actually , heres a question for you
(03:01:23) morph@m0rph.net.nz: what exatcly do you do?
(03:01:26) morph@m0rph.net.nz: apart from going 
(03:01:34) morph@m0rph.net.nz: "cheers" on everyones torrent?
(03:07:57) mj: oh you're kidding me
(03:08:17) mj: proves how little you pay attention
(03:08:47) mj: got going to get into this waste of time discussion with you
(03:08:56) mj: you are going to throw around hot wind
(03:09:03) mj: and it is all going to go nowhere
(03:09:15) morph@m0rph.net.nz: well ofcourse not
(03:09:33) morph@m0rph.net.nz: but i am very curious to see what you have to say 
(03:09:38) mj: you can't even retort with something of substance morph
(03:09:58) mj: ok just for you
(03:10:19) mj: I read every thread / forum miltipole times a day
(03:10:23) mj: check every torrent
(03:10:32) mj: checked snatches on torrents for hit and runs
(03:10:39) mj: check all users for ratio
(03:11:05) mj: as soon as I see someone logged in that I am not sure of I check their stats
(03:11:17) mj: I help ezero with searching logs
(03:11:25) mj: I upload/seed a shitload of torrents
(03:11:31) mj: ummm what else
(03:11:38) mj: what do you do morph
(03:11:45) mj: other than kick people from irc
(03:11:53) mj: and hit and run on torrents
(03:12:05) mj: and disable rbland
(03:12:07) morph@m0rph.net.nz: i don't do anything , i no longer have an account on Aliments
(03:12:09) morph@m0rph.net.nz: law
(03:12:11) morph@m0rph.net.nz: hit and run
(03:12:14) mj: oh and images 
(03:12:17) mj: woppdeedoo
(03:12:23) mj: you do
(03:12:23) morph@m0rph.net.nz: lawl*
(03:12:28) mj: because uve done it to me
(03:12:37) mj: on torrents I downloaded for you for one
(03:13:04) morph@m0rph.net.nz: i always waited till i had uploaded it to someone else
(03:13:08) morph@m0rph.net.nz: remeber
(03:13:15) mj: you seriously bever know when to stop do you
(03:13:16) morph@m0rph.net.nz: i don't have data to throw around 
(03:13:49) mj: I've said  enough  times tonight/this week/this month im tired
(03:14:03) mj: said I didn't want to discuss this tonight
(03:14:08) mj: yet you still persist
(03:14:24) morph@m0rph.net.nz: yup and thats fine
(03:14:39) morph@m0rph.net.nz: you well and truely drew your line