My reasons for buying the phone is now limited to "GPS, WIFI, LINUX (yays! can do what I want :D :D) TOUCHSCREEN" The rest of it sorta disappears, think it'll be slow * TimRiker has quit ("Well, at least my terminal is not so controlling now") I'm almost doubting the validity of my reasoning now, honestly. * Marex-notebook (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) has joined #openmoko "Free your phone" implied Free Software but it seem more and more of it is non-free. * TimRiker (n=timr@psnet.cc) has joined #openmoko kdean06: why? Why does it seem more and more of it is non-free? what is non-free? 'cept the gta01 gllin if you were expecting firmwares to be free, that was just unrealistic I don't think so. so you are referring to firmware then I don't see how expecting firmware to be free is any more unrealistic than expecting the xserver to be Free, or the dialer, or anything else. well, "more and more" isn't really descriptive, since the chip firmwares were never part of it firmware of chips inside is simply too complicated and propriretary..like most firmwares are then you're blind Is that stated anywhere? I mean, that there's no expectation that the hardware would also be Free? fimrwares of non-CPU chips are probably always propriertaly and not likely to be productive conversation kdean06: in some countries, making the mobile firmware free is actually illegal if you're going to sell it. * fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT same goes for any radio In most of the rest, it means you won't get certification. and can't sell it free = $$ or free = OS? Libre free as in you can twiddle it and make it do 'bad' stuff.