##freebsd I will not and you can't make me. lol it's what I use Asako: I've been trying that and it fails Asako: I set it up like this http://bsdtips.utcorp.net/mediawiki/index.php/Run_Esd,_Arts,_Jack_and_OSS eh i was thinking about trying to run a desktop bsd on my desktop...but i dunno :/ cool, thanks looks like amarok won't play if jackd is running code64: the DT tools are in ports too code64: I just use FBSD as my desktop well i just got freebsd up and running on my laptop with wireless working last night thanks to jpalmer yay wireless was the main thing but yeah i am stoked about that what was the bug-a-boo? edit /boot/loader.conf and /etc/rc.conf it's just annoying because only one thing can have sound open Asako: I have linux-firefox and it won't intall flash I use win32 firefox i have that saved in a txt file and the whole irc chat from last night in case i have more problems (or re-install) lol comperr, I had to do it by hand Asako: did you READ that article? yeah, I'm reading it Asako: what did you have to do ? Asako: I have 3 things running sound you can set up more comperr, download the flash7 tar file yeah but the thing with the desktop is that someone else uses it too but just to check their internet Asako: I tried that - but it says your os is not suported extract it and copy the plugin files to the linux-firefox plugin directory o so that can be done on anyone yeah, you need to find a mirror or use adobe's ftp server aksis: I did use adobe's I can copy it to my server if you need it http://watters.ws/rpms/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz Asako: I got it thanks :D now for sound hda no problem yeah, I'm trying to fix sound so I can watch videos and use amarok at the same time * comperr I hate that 6.2 doesn't support it allo! hey AcidSlep Asako: are the vchans working? I got those scsi drives working! yay! to allow multiple apps sound access? what are you working on now code64? well i am good to go on my laptop atm but i am looking to install something on the comp i am on now install "something" like a new os? oh sorry lol yeah coo either desktopbsd,freebsd,or pc-bsd Damn Got this this printing almost working i am thinking something desktopy because someone else has to use it too you can make freebsd desktopy its just except that everything is transposed too far up the page (bout a quarter inch or so) harder anybody seen that happen before (using foomatic-rip as the input-filter) yeah i know but i don't want all that extra work mwc: atleast it works yeah so i am deciding between desktopbsd and pc-bsd AcidSlep: yeah, but it cuts out a coupla lines of text ive found desktop bsd to be alright how bout pc-bsd? never tried it hmm, looks like the xine port doesn't have jack support Asako: for what? in fact i don't even think the pc-bsd live cd worked for me from what i recall :/ AcidSlep, amarok a lot of them don't actually i think there is something wrong with this computer code64: if you install FBSD and add applications, why do you need an "idiot proof" install? You are already past the idiot part .... because this computer isn't just for my use once the desktop is running does it matter? Asako: you can just tell each naieve OSS app to use a different /dev/dspX.Y device yeah, amarok only lets you set /dev/dsp code64: but what is the difference WHAT installs it once you are running it? lol why do you want amarok? huh? because the interface rules Asako: you could use a shim then, e.g. esddsp code64: listen to me; if it's a FreeBSD 6.x release it's using, your rum card /will not work/ and it has nothing to do with what it is. it does not look that special... yeah oh no this isn't for my laptop i got that taken care of but yeah i do have to make sure that card works... I'd still have to rebuild the port most likely this will be another bsd project and 7.0 rc1 is out hehe thats whats on my laptop my laptop runs AntiX [comperr@starfx ~]$ linux-firefox Illegal instruction (core dumped) my laptop has no X at all but what's antiX? no X ? Asako: thats what I get from flash antiX is a fast, lightweight and easy to install linux live CD distribution based on MEPIS for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems. comperr, are you on a 64 bit system? traitor! Asako: yes that could be the problem Asako: it should run 32 bit programs is linux-firefox 32 bit? I think so it's 8bit kickin it old school NES style :-p 6.3-RC2 has started hitting mirrors I can't really help much, all I did was copy the plugin files over I should probaly get some kind of live-cd just for flash :( restart firefox, everything is fine you can call the live cd : where did it go?! because it's FLASH! lol lol or call it "say cheese" I wish gnash worked better lol Asako comperr, I'm serious we need a decent open source flash player hi the fonts in firefox looks very very bad in freebsd and its tiny i know u can increase text size with alt + but it doesnt help still looks bad any ideas? Asako: I fully agree reverser, cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/webfonts/ && make install clean thank you very much brb, reboot i win! oh wait wt sorry so, turns out timemachine is not nearly as impressive as I thought. It does not backup files AS you edit them, just runs at intervals and backs up changes. so it's a cron job basically what rsync --backup does be cool if they used something like LFS Asako: to my understanding, essentially : Yes does anything besides NetBSD have that? it would be cool if they used something like kqueue and backed files up AS you editted them what is LFS? logged file system you can roll back the whole FS to any point in time that is NICE makes file writes kind of slow for "timemachine" like backups on FBSD, you could write a snapshot, wait until X time later, mount it, compare the live FS to the snapshot, save the difference, delete the snapshot, go to beginning OR for mirror + differences : LFS makes writes very fast rsync --backup --backup-directory=/backup/differences/2007/12/30 i wish i was as cool as bruce lee me too * gongoputch makes reppie as cool as bruce lee I may start taking taekwondo soon there i want to do a martial art reppie, yeah, they're nice to know think I'll start with taekwondo and take some judo later GRAH!!! I just want compiz to work.. can you -union mount a nullfs ? * comperr takes jujitsu and I have taken shotokon and krav-maga ITF style of course i want to do kung fu better join a shaolin temple how come? shaolin kung fu is the best in the world yeah i'm asian! Asako how old are you cauc asian hahahaha 28.5 and you never did a martial art? nope i c why do you have this gay nickname anyway? :( no one gets that joke ? (i thought it was pretty clever) reppie, no idea code64 .. my other name was taken yes reppie? lol Asako what's your other name? Blackknight what joke ? Its obviously to the point I should give up.... hello hai * ruinevil has purchase https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665243973 Weeee, printing works Asako: fwiw, I studied TKD for about 6 months yay mwc, is it good? On reflection, I think I'd rather learn a martial art that focuses on breaking holds yeah TKD is virtually entirely striking that's why you train in grappling too tkd is a fun sport Now, TKD looks cool judo, BJJ, whatever I just don't see ever using striking not very useful against virtually any other fighting style. If I'm in the position to strike, I'll just flee I dunno its intesive tho if I can't flee, then I need to break a hold then I flee hi hello be nice if we had a krav maga school around i'm a purple belt in tkd i installed the webfonts thing, but still the fonts aren't good There's a krav maga school in this city actually about a 20 minute bike ride yeah, problem with TKD is somebody can just grab your leg the hopkido guys we train with have far more real-world skills On a serious note... the firefox fonts look very bad :P yes they do I've installed firefox from ports (7.0RC1) and it won't run get the ms corefonts >.> firefox just dies with not even a peep to stderr how do i get it? i've only used freebsd for 6h same with the package never used linux/unix before mwc: will it start as root? jpaetzel: haven't tried... do that now jpaetzel: it does now run it as a user >.> ruinevil, where can i find "ms corefonts"? i bet itll work now hmmmm ruinevil: won't run, same failure mode as befor e doesnt appear that freebsd has it I think the fix is rm -rf ~/.firefox i guess webfonts you do own a copy of windows right jpaetzel: in my homedir? doesn't exist somewhere is that what i need to type? http://www.freshports.org/x11-fonts/webfonts http://zip.4chan.org/a/src/1199047668807.jpg reppie: 4chan ska dö! mwc: it's some dotdir...maybe .mozilla how do i copy a text from bitchx? jpaetzel: it was indeed mozilla thank you, now i need to go have a shower what is your console program? xterm i think and wipe away the shame of having run firefox as root highlight it? they don't make water scalding enough ;( ask jpaetzel i dont use xterm i've already installed that port /x11-fonts/webfonts but still it looks bad and i modified the xorg.conf i added one line reverser: you should be able to use the standard X copying routine highlight the text in one window how do i do that? i can't copy and paste to firefox do you have antialiasing on? using the left muse button click and drag in the xterm not working then to paste it, just middle click on the firefox *on the text field in firefox now it's working. thank you. sorry if i'm repeating myself but do anyone have any idea how i can get the fonts to look better? (in firefox) i can take a print screen and show you sure how do i take a prnt-screen? i can google, sorry im just lazy today antialiasing makes stuff pretty~ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html#ANTIALIAS okay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeType that may also peak your interests advaced sh*t :p pique? meh i fail how do i get the sound working? do i need to download any drivers? reverser, no, this isn't windows :P gimme a minute and if yes, how to i know which drivers i need? hehe, okay :) kldload snd_driver; cat /dev/sndstat snd_driver locks up my box then kldunload snd_driver; kldload (whatever driver works) Asako, not here but i load the proper driver :P me too or you can read your system specs reverser, what kind of sound card? and figure out what you need >.> and check out the handbook section on sound I was really, really impressed with how sound was handled under freebsd and I thought ALSA was brainless Your FTP down? heh oss is more so yes, oss is ugh nah, I love how the kernel does mixing >_> heh spaz: from spaznet? and the vchans Belliash, ages ago i shut it down a while ago due to lack of activity wait...you're kash, aren't you? no, i'm not :P hmm spaz what do i need to type afterkldunload snd_driver; kldload? reverser, cat /dev/sndstat and see what sound driver you should load can anyone tell me what's wrong with ftp.freebsd.org ? Belliash, worksforme (R) okay thank you so much Belliash, it's probably busy reverser, sound works now? reverser, kldload'ing snd_driver is a bit of a kludge, you should find your proper sound card and load that from now on :) reverser: and put it in /boot/loader.conf sound_load="YES" # Digital sound subsystem snd_ich_load="YES" # Intel ICH replace snd_ich with your actual driver thank you but i don't understand 100% is newpcm my driver? Belliash, oh i remember you now! Belliash: i had the same problems ] [##freebsd(+cnrt)] [Lag 0] [O/1 N/299 I/0 V/0 F/0] [U:a:S:b:h] use another ftp #arcon, wasn't it? [##freebsd] prometh# kldload snd_driver; cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) spaz: right spaznet was nce but too many netsplits Belliash: for some reason if you notice if you're trying to go to that server like doing pkg_add -r or something it is ftp://ftp.freebsd.org Belliash, we fixed those but too little too late which doesn't exist so we called it quits just choose a different ftp same thing happend to me you can change the pkg_root spaz: i think You can join your server to freenode as U wish how do i save this conversation? Belliash, nah i haven't the time anymore copy/paste ? btw: what is LiveFS? i'll just sit quietly as an observer and not a ruler livefs? never heard of it mean either how can i copy all the text? because i can't scroll all the text ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/7.0/7.0-RC1-amd64-livefs.iso live file system ? live cd sounds like has only 380MB 280* http://user.berklix.org/~dgw/ sorry for my dumbness, i'veonly used freebsd for like 6h and i'm _totally_ new to *nix :P what about linux? what about it? never used it how did you install freebsd reverser reverser: i chose bsd over linux bootonly i am a newb too okay, cool :) i found a tutorial on freebsd.se (.se = sweden) yeah i did my research and i used ubuntu for like a day like a year ago lol and didn't find it interesting except for tux racer (you gotta admit that game is cool) lol heh, nice. =) but yeah i read up a lot about BSD and linux did you install a desktop environment? i tried openbsd for a bit didn't get too far into it but i set up internet and a windows manager hehe, i see i installed fluxbox it's actually on my mac still right now, thinking about trying to put freebsd powerpc port on it ok, håll käften nu tack. :p yeah but i like freebsd and the community is really great can't beat the docs