01:11:16 AM) Me: its THAT kind of stuff (01:11:18 AM) Paige: its really not that stupid! (01:11:24 AM) Me: that makes me lose faith in humaity (01:11:38 AM) Paige: seriously its not that stupid (01:13:36 AM) Paige: you act so pretentious sometimes (01:14:38 AM) Me: becuase i get pissed of at how stupid people can be (01:15:06 AM) Paige: maybe you're stupid (01:15:38 AM) Me: it frustrates me that so many people can't use common sense and logical thinking (01:16:29 AM) Paige: not everyone is as perfect as you (01:19:58 AM) Paige: sighhh that was mean.. sorry (01:20:00 AM) Me: im not saying im perfect, or above anyone else. im just saying that when it comes down to thinking clearly or going along with the roving masses despite what may lie right in front of them righ under teh surface, all i see around me are people following the norm, taking what they see in front of them for face value, not thinking for themselves (01:21:14 AM) Me: no one stops to think "wait a minute...this might not be all there is to it. maybe there is something im missing" (01:21:24 AM) Paige: hmm i think everyone goes along with the masses, in someway (01:22:20 AM) Paige: absolutly everyone alive, b/c we are human (01:22:39 AM) Me: well yeah, its part of being in society (01:22:48 AM) Me: but that doesn't mean you have to do that for every part of your life (01:22:58 AM) Me: every simple thing (01:23:40 AM) Me: but there are so many people (01:23:42 AM) Me: who don't want to try (01:23:59 AM) Me: who don't wwant to find out what is really going on (01:24:02 AM) Me: or see the whole picture (01:24:14 AM) Me: they just keep walking, looking straight ahead (01:24:20 AM) Me: accepting anything that is right in front of them (01:24:34 AM) Paige: its easier (01:25:04 AM) Me: is ease of life an acceptable cost for the truth and for the whole picture? (01:25:29 AM) Paige: ignorance is bliss (01:25:40 AM) Me: ignorance is viel (01:25:42 AM) Me: *veil (01:25:54 AM) Me: *a veil (01:26:15 AM) Paige: no trust me its complete bliss (01:26:18 AM) Paige: you know (01:26:19 AM) Paige: it (01:26:29 AM) Me: ignorance is a cubicle in a 20-story office building 10 years from now (01:27:06 AM) Paige: whatever most of the time the whole picture sucks so people choose not to see it (01:27:13 AM) Paige: everyone does it (01:27:43 AM) Me: but if you can see it, then you can work the system, instead of the system working you! (01:27:49 AM) Me: tie in: (01:28:00 AM) Me: the reason why i know so much about computers (01:28:08 AM) Me: is the exact reason i have been taling about (01:28:17 AM) Me: i can't stand to just know whats on the surface (01:28:25 AM) Paige: whats so important about working the system? screww the system (01:28:33 AM) Me: you can screw the system if you can't see it! (01:28:46 AM) Paige: ok i will (01:29:07 AM) Me: you'll see the system? (01:29:36 AM) Paige: since i don't see the system, i can screw it... thats what you said (01:29:42 AM) Me: *can't (01:29:44 AM) Me: i meant can't (01:29:49 AM) Paige: hm (01:29:59 AM) Me: all you'd be doing (01:30:04 AM) Me: is turning around in that straight line (01:30:24 AM) Me: and looking at the countless lines around you (01:30:34 AM) Me: unable to see, to understand what to do (01:30:46 AM) Me: if you don't understand it, then you're part of it (01:31:30 AM) Paige: i don't want to literly(sp?) screw the system. i want to forget about it and live my own life (01:32:41 AM) Me: how are you going to live your own life if you never see the system (01:32:44 AM) Me: and are always part of it (01:32:49 AM) Me: ypi cam (01:32:54 AM) Me: *you can't break invisible chains (01:34:01 AM) Paige: but if i don't beleive in the invisible chains, then are they there? i don't see them. i don't think of them. no is telling me about them.. (01:34:31 AM) Me: hence the ignorance (01:35:13 AM) Me: Willful ignorance (or vincible ignorance) is a bad faith decision to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt. (01:35:26 AM) Paige: no its called using your head to figure out what to believe in (01:35:31 AM) Me: you don't believe they are there (01:35:35 AM) Me: and so ignorance is bliss (01:35:46 AM) Me: until one day you want to change what is going on (01:35:49 AM) Me: and then you pull (01:35:55 AM) Me: and there they are (01:37:33 AM) Paige: http://www.crimethinc.com/texts/days/joinresistance.php (01:37:55 AM) Paige: if i believe there are no chains (01:38:11 AM) Paige: then there are no chains, for them to pull me down (01:38:28 AM) Paige: its a weird essay (01:38:30 AM) Paige: but (01:38:31 AM) Me: they aren't your chains to decide if they are really or not (01:38:33 AM) Paige: there is a part (01:38:34 AM) Me: its society's chains (01:38:41 AM) Me: *real or not (01:38:47 AM) Paige: about making our own decsions (01:38:54 AM) Paige: that i really believe in (01:39:09 AM) Me: the essay is about love (01:39:27 AM) Paige: whatever, what if you don't fellow along with society's chains.. i know read on (01:39:50 AM) Me: do you? (01:40:15 AM) Paige: like i said before there is a part: Lilpen8 [1:39 A.M.]: about making our own decsions Lilpen8 [1:39 A.M.]: that i really believe in (01:41:40 AM) Paige: very idealistic (01:41:46 AM) Paige: but whatever (01:42:54 AM) Me: we go to goverment sponsered public school, learn about state-controlled media, learn skills for business abstract ideals for a later working, white-collar life, watch corporate controlled television about what society deems to be fashion. we go to starbucks, listen to our ipods which every 1 in 10 americans own (01:43:11 AM) Me: we have to follow society's chains (01:43:13 AM) Paige: ? (01:43:32 AM) Me: (01:39:27 AM) Paige: whatever, what if you don't fellow along with society's chains.. i know read on (01:43:48 AM) Paige: follow* (01:44:01 AM) Paige: hm sorry (01:44:15 AM) Me: whether or not you decide to see those chains, bend them for yourself, see the entire picture (01:44:18 AM) Paige: this is my opinion (01:44:20 AM) Paige: ok (01:44:26 AM) Me: ok (01:44:38 AM) Me: sorry. its just something im very adamant about (01:44:59 AM) Paige: its fine. you have an opinion also