[23:23:12] hi. [23:23:22] Katlyn, the channel for your DNSBL is oper-only. [23:23:50] * nenolod (~nenolod@Swift-33D968CA.ok.ok.cox.net) Quit (Quit: nenolod: you are a very strange individual) [23:23:55] * nenolod (~nenolod@Swift-A812E81.sacredspiral.co.uk) has joined #swiftirc [23:24:18] <@Katlyn> it's still in development, nobody really knows about it at the moment [23:24:31] Katlyn, people are using it. [23:24:50] <@Katlyn> I only know of a few networks that use it :o [23:24:52] Katlyn, at any rate, what i am wondering is, why have a seperate blacklist, when you could just interact with dronebl's directly. [23:25:39] <@Katlyn> because ours doesn't necessarily work the same as dronebl :o [23:25:49] oh ok. [23:26:02] well, some reciprical data sharing would be nice if you want to set that up. [23:26:03] :) [23:26:33] :) [23:26:44] (: [23:26:49] (: [23:26:57] <@Katlyn> sure, although it'd probably be best to wait until things have settled down with it.. it's still really new [23:27:10] Rupert is a very happy person. [23:27:11] <@Katlyn> I know Tim wants to begin setting up mirrors for it.. [23:27:25] You also know Tim sucks [23:27:28] and anything he makes breaks. [23:27:37] or jsut doens't work at all to begin with [23:27:49] <@Katlyn> This is true - it doesn't actually update at the moment because for some reason Tim managed to screw up rndc [23:28:05] ...lol what? [23:28:08] <@Katlyn> without even being in his country [23:28:10] now, I need somebody who's fast to go get me a couple'o'cans of Burn, 20-30 shoudl do...double time ! [23:28:10] why on earth would you use bind for a DNSBL. [23:28:26] <@Katlyn> do you use rbldnsd or something? [23:28:38] We used mysql [23:28:44] (With DNSBL) [23:28:58] ...what. [23:29:05] you don't allow actions? [23:29:07] geeze. [23:29:13] <@Katlyn> lol [23:29:14] reduces spam [23:29:16] by a LOT [23:29:28] i guess... [23:29:38] <@Katlyn> generally our network has a very low IQ [23:29:46] Tim said first, LOL you use bind, then we moved to mysql and now he uses it himself, made me lol a bit :P [23:29:55] Slaapkamer, what are you on about [23:30:06] Slaapkamer, you use mysql as backend, and then dump that into an rbldnsd zone file [23:30:13] I can better ask, what are you on about? [23:30:18] Slaapkamer, and then rsync that out to the mirrors [23:30:24] * [DA]Gunz0 (_DA_Gunz@Swift-EE88FB7C.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ) [23:30:30] <@Katlyn> we don't have any mirrors at the moment [23:30:41] you should NEVER EVER use bind to serve dnsbl [23:30:57] <@Katlyn> how come? [23:30:58] cause the kids will fuck over your servers [23:31:18] In what way? [23:31:26] * i_pk_pjers_i (~fake@Swift-D5F0FDBE.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Quit: Speedy mIRC Client V 13.0 --- you can't get it.) [23:31:27] Slaapkamer, whatever the vulnerability of the week is. [23:31:39] Explain how they could? [23:31:55] Slaapkamer, well, malformed queries to run remote code is a great thing bind has a reputation for [23:32:16] * Mil|Idle (~Boom@Swift-70971B7D.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [23:32:23] Shower > sleep, night.. i mean morning.. i mean im going 2 sleep :~) [23:32:53] Slaapkamer, bind is also very inefficient in handling large amounts of entries in a zone due to having a two level b+tree layout in the zone record mapping subsystem [23:33:17] for efficiently hosting dnsbl, you need something which builds a radix trie [23:33:29] * Rupert (rupert@got.the.internet.goin.nutz) Quit (Input/output error) [23:33:30] otherwise some kid with 1000 bots can fuck over your list due to lookups being too slow [23:33:46] * Rupert (rupert@got.the.internet.goin.nutz) has joined #swiftirc [23:34:03] To bad the max bots a skiddie has here is around 100-200 [23:34:24] * David (~ssh12dad9@Swift-20CFAE94.ipt.aol.com) has joined #swiftirc [23:34:25] Slaapkamer, don't worry, if you operate a public blacklist, scarier kiddies will come. [23:34:32] wherez? [23:34:43] Slaapkamer, i mean, i'm only talking from experience of having ran one of the most successful drone blacklists in the history of IRC [23:34:49] Slaapkamer, these things get ddosed [23:34:55] * jerrcs (jeremy@Swift-ADACCBB2.lerstenen.t3.se) has joined #swiftirc [23:34:55] Slaapkamer, and it's not pretty if you use bind [23:35:02] »GLØßÅL« (16:29:58) ! +Anon slaps Victoria| with a crusty penis <--- WTF :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [23:35:08] hmm, what about bind? [23:35:34] And what was the name of the 'most succesfull dronebl' ? [23:35:41] <@Katlyn> (dronebl) [23:36:04] jerrcs [23:36:09] kingskrown just cloned nitrousirc :( [23:36:16] Slaapkamer, also you should keep in mind that script kids can team up [23:36:23] <@Sephiroth> Is Tim still generating multi-megabyte zone files to load into bind? [23:36:24] I didn't ask that [23:36:44] <@Katlyn> it comes to about 8mb [23:36:45] I know enough about those bastards, so other subject [23:37:19] <@Sephiroth> Using an actual DNS server seems like overkill for dnsbl to me [23:37:20] with rbldns it'd probably be about 2mb [23:37:23] :) [23:37:32] Sephiroth, it's not overkill, it's wrong. [23:37:44] Sephiroth, as i pointed out above, bind is not properly designed to handle dnsbl [23:37:48] Rupert: wtf? really.. [23:37:56] yea jerrcs [23:38:04] hi runedude^Wjerrcs. [23:38:06] Rupert: he botted kyles ircds awhile ago. [23:38:11] Airsofter78 and some Lil_Goldfish guy was there too [23:38:13] hi nenolod. how are you doing? [23:38:16] I banned all the bots with os_trace... [23:38:41] <@Katlyn> yay for srvx [23:38:59] Katlyn, I'm getting tired =( [23:39:01] i lol'd at that Katlyn [23:39:09] Katlyn, I need more energy drinks if you intend for me to make this work [23:39:10] the way i read it.. [23:39:12] <@Katlyn> keep at it Marius [23:39:14] god i'm a nerd =[ [23:39:28] at any rate [23:39:28] funny I ran into you nenolod, i've convinced a network i'm oper on to switch to charybdis.. we had issues with inspircd and our current ircd, solid-ircd [23:39:52] jerrcs, that's strange; i run inspircd on indymedia's private irc network fine. [23:40:19] * David (~ssh12dad9@Swift-20CFAE94.ipt.aol.com) has left #swiftirc [23:40:24] well, the box one of our admins tried it on.... is very old [23:40:30] ah. [23:40:30] from 2005 [23:40:32] I think. [23:40:37] our irc servers are run debian etch. :) [23:40:39] oh yes [23:40:41] "very" old [23:41:02] * ImmortalGhost is now known as SpiderPenguin [23:41:04] actually, one of them still runs sarge.