| [20:15] | <Axeman> | see, trolls troll people, that's what they do. |
| [20:15] | <Axeman> | and when someone in a position of power trolls someone not in a position of power, they don't have to have a reason |
| [20:16] | <Axeman> | so, you know, it's basically "load a revolver, put on a blindfold and shoot at random" |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
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| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
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| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
| [20:17] | * JohnReaves | plays the world's smallest violin for poor Flamey :< :< :< :< |
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| [20:18] | <Axeman> | and this isn't trolling how? |
| [20:18] | <JohnReaves> | I never said it wasn't? |
| [20:19] | <Axeman> | well, let's see |
| [20:19] | <Axeman> | if I crapflood a chanop in PM and act like a dick on purpose, I get banned |
| [20:19] | <Axeman> | but if a chanop does the same thing to me, it's awwright? |
| [20:19] | <JohnReaves> | Yes |
| [20:19] | <JohnReaves> | Yes |
| [20:20] | <Axeman> | hmm. |
| [20:22] | <JohnReaves> | I'm glad you have figured it out |
| [20:22] | <Axeman> | So you're essentially admitting to being an egotistical, corrupt troll? |
| [20:23] | <JohnReaves> | Sure, why not. Whatever satisfies your delusions |
| [20:23] | <Axeman> | Delusions. |
| [20:23] | <Axeman> | So tell me your version of events, from the beginning. |
| [20:24] | <JohnReaves> | Nah |
| [20:24] | <Axeman> | You know, the "correct" story |
| [20:24] | <Axeman> | because so far, I've noticed that you've never actually contradicted anything I've said |
| [20:24] | <Axeman> | you've just been a dick in every way possible |
| [20:26] | <JohnReaves> | Ah ha! Spot on! |
| [20:26] | <Axeman> | Why? |
| [20:27] | <JohnReaves> | To annoy you |
| [20:30] | <Axeman> | Because? |
| [20:31] | <JohnReaves> | You annoy me? |
| [20:31] | <Axeman> | I know |
| [20:31] | <Axeman> | but why can't you just let things be? |
| [20:31] | <Axeman> | Isn't the purpose of moderators and operators to make sure things don't get out of hand? |
| [20:32] | <Axeman> | And not to use their powers for their own personal vendettas? |
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| [20:32] | <JohnReaves> | Becasue you keep trying to join and then you PM your bullshit |
| [20:32] | <Axeman> | If you didn't ban me from the channel in the first place, this conversation never would have taken place |
| [20:33] | <Axeman> | you created a problem and then used it as an excuse to act like a jackass |
| [20:33] | <JohnReaves> | If you weren't a worthless troll then none of this would have happened |
| [20:33] | <Axeman> | Worthless troll? |
| [20:33] | <Axeman> | When have I ever trolled? |
| [20:33] | <JohnReaves> | Hah! Seriously? |
| [20:33] | <Axeman> | I'd like to see you actually pin something on me besides childish name-calling |
| [20:34] | <Axeman> | "Hah! Seriously?" isn't a log, or evidence, or any proof at all, in fact |
| [20:34] | <Axeman> | it's just bluffing |
| [20:35] | <Axeman> | So pray tell, could you please give me some justification for your label of "troll"? |
| [20:35] | <JohnReaves> | How about I have you join a channel and I ask everyone if they think you are a troll? |
| [20:35] | <Axeman> | No. |
| [20:36] | <Axeman> | You haven't defined "troll" |
| [20:36] | <Axeman> | And "troll" isn't a noun, it's an action |
| [20:36] | <Axeman> | you troll someone, you are not a troll |
| [20:36] | <Axeman> | it's a label used to objectify someone and justify plain meanness |
| [20:37] | <Axeman> | A million people saying 2+2=5 does not make it so |
| [20:37] | <JohnReaves> | troll is a noun |
| [20:37] | <JohnReaves> | don't be a pedant |
| [20:37] | <Axeman> | It isn't semantics, it's a state of mind |
| [20:37] | <Axeman> | the premise of labeling someone "good" or "bad", your ally or enemy, is a device |
| [20:38] | <Axeman> | because if someone's completely good or completely bad, you can treat them as such |
| [20:38] | <Axeman> | you either blindly support all their actions regardless of whether or not they're right, or you can hate them with fury and ignore the fact that they haven't done anything |
| [20:39] | <Axeman> | so 1984 without the Anti-Sex League, basically |
| [20:41] | <Axeman> | although I have to give you credit. |
| [20:41] | <Axeman> | you are fucking smart... |
| [20:41] | <Axeman> | although winning an argument with authority is a losing proposition |
| [20:41] | <JohnReaves> | Aw, thanks |
| [20:42] | <Axeman> | So are you a proactive troll, or are you the reactive type? |
| [20:42] | <Axeman> | Do you cruise the Internet looking for a fight or do you mainly stick to Wikipedia? |
| [20:42] | <JohnReaves> | You are my only recipient |
| [20:43] | <Axeman> | Ah. |
| [20:43] | <Axeman> | you should really consider selling your services |
| [20:44] | <Axeman> | I'd pay at least $10 for you to go on a certain forum and raise hell |
| [20:44] | <Axeman> | in fact... |
| [20:44] | <Axeman> | do you have a paypal accout? |
| [20:44] | <JohnReaves> | Nah |
| [20:44] | <Axeman> | ah... |
| [20:44] | <Axeman> | because there's a certain group of self-important, drama-mongering bastards who really deserve a good bashing |
| [20:45] | <Axeman> | and I assure you, they're very easy to troll. |
| [20:45] | <Axeman> | they are known as Random Insanity Online. |
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| [20:45] | <JohnReaves> | Not interested |
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| [20:45] | <Axeman> | it's a shame |
| [20:45] | <Axeman> | you have a gift |
| [20:46] | <Axeman> | So what do you want? |
| [20:46] | <Axeman> | Glory? Power? Ego? |
| [20:46] | <JohnReaves> | I can haz Glory? |
| [20:46] | <JohnReaves> | I can haz Power? |
| [20:46] | <Axeman> | Do you just want me gone, or am I merely a personification of everything in your life, online and offline, that you can't control? |
| [20:46] | <JohnReaves> | I can haz Ego? |
| [20:47] | <Axeman> | Parhaps you have little control over events that happen in real life and you're angry because you can't change things |
| [20:47] | <JohnReaves> | Hah, you're seriously psychoanalyzing |
| [20:47] | <Axeman> | and so you compensate by controlling others online? |
| [20:47] | <Axeman> | I'd understand that. |
| [20:48] | <Axeman> | You're a WP sysop, so I presume you spend a lot of your time online |
| [20:48] | <JohnReaves> | Not too much really |
| [20:48] | <Axeman> | unlike casual editors/posters/etc, you put more of an emotional investment in your work |
| [20:48] | <Axeman> | so it means more to you than just a chat room, or just an encyclopedia |
| [20:48] | <Axeman> | it's your life |
| [20:49] | <Axeman> | and if someone pisses you off on IRC, they're not just flooding your channel, they're flooding your bedroom, and you'll be damned if you allow that in your house! |
| [20:49] | <Axeman> | hahaha |
| [20:49] | <Axeman> | that's okay |
| [20:49] | <Axeman> | I get it |
| [20:49] | <Axeman> | here's my advice to you: |
| [20:50] | <Axeman> | get a hatchet from the store, a tubular steel camp axe is only about $9 |
| [20:51] | <Axeman> | and pretty much all hatchets like that are the same |
| [20:51] | <JohnReaves> | Hah, I really hpe you don't think you amateur psychobullshit impresses me |
| [20:51] | <Axeman> | so buy it, take it outside into a secluded patch of woods. |
| [20:52] | <Axeman> | doesn't have to be complete wilderness, but not right on a road or anything |
| [20:52] | <Axeman> | take your axe out, find an old dead tree, and chop it down |
| [20:52] | <Axeman> | Go absolutely apeshit. |
| [20:52] | <Axeman> | Release all your frustration, anger, into that tree |
| [20:52] | <Axeman> | Try making it a project |
| [20:53] | <Axeman> | make a path through the woods |
| [20:53] | <JohnReaves> | Here's what you should do: Become obsessed with Bjork, delude yourself into think you are going to be her biggest influence, build a mail bomb to send to her, then paint your face and shot yourself in the head |
| [20:53] | <Axeman> | you can walk through it, bike, take your dog for a walk, whatever. |
| [20:53] | <Axeman> | trust me, you'll feel a hell of a lot better, you'll have accomplished something, and you'll be able to make decisions online and in real life without your anger getting in the way |
| [20:53] | <Axeman> | I'm not trying to be a dick, or whatever. |
| [20:54] | <Axeman> | I'm trying to help you out, because you seem unhappy. |
| [20:54] | <JohnReaves> | Right, been there done that |
| [20:54] | <JohnReaves> | without the emotional bullshit though |
| [20:54] | <Axeman> | Maybe you're not. Maybe you're kind of confident because every block, every autorem is a small victory. |
| [20:54] | <Axeman> | But it really isn't. |
| [20:54] | <Axeman> | It's you getting your jollies, your emotional support, at the expense of other, real people. |
| [20:55] | <JohnReaves> | You aren't real people |
| [20:55] | <Axeman> | I can understand if you use Wikipedia as a tool with which to improve your self-esteem or whatever, but... |
| [20:55] | <Axeman> | that isn't the point of the project |
| [20:55] | <Axeman> | we're building an encyclopedia |
| [20:55] | <JohnReaves> | Nah, I use serial killing and rape for that |
| [20:55] | <Axeman> | and if you can't understand that... |
| [20:56] | <Axeman> | and if you're going to put up a shell to deny what anyone says... |
| [20:56] | <Axeman> | than there's nothing more I can say to you. |
| [20:56] | <JohnReaves> | Finally |
| [20:56] | <Axeman> | You are a sad, strange little man. |
| [20:56] | <Axeman> | I pity you. |
| [20:56] | <Axeman> | Goodbye. |
| [20:56] | <JohnReaves> | :< |
| [20:56] | <JohnReaves> | :< |
| [20:56] | <JohnReaves> | But you're my only hope Axeman |
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| [20:57] | <JohnReaves> | The suicide hotline won't pick up my calls anymore |
| [20:57] | <JohnReaves> | This is on your back young man! |
| [20:57] | <Axeman> | Well... |
| [20:57] | <Axeman> | I don't dislike you. |
| [20:57] | <Axeman> | Can't really say I dislike, hate, or want to kill anyone. |
| [20:58] | <Axeman> | When someone pisses me off, I just remember that there aren't good and bad people, only actions |
| [20:58] | <JohnReaves> | Not even them damn foreigners?! |
| [20:58] | <Axeman> | people are inclined to do good, bad, stupid, smart, or silly things.. but they're still people |
| [20:58] | <Axeman> | Hitler did some good things, and Jesus did some bad things. |
| [20:59] | <JohnReaves> | What about midgets? They aren't people |
| [20:59] | <Axeman> | Can't judge people because each of us is just as flawed as the next. |
| [20:59] | <Axeman> | and it makes you feel a hell of a lot better to judge, but it isn't worth it |
| [20:59] | <Axeman> | John... I like you. |
| [20:59] | <Axeman> | Could you say the same for me? |
| [21:00] | <Axeman> | John? |
| [21:01] | <JohnReaves> | No |
| [21:01] | <Axeman> | why is that? |
| [21:01] | <JohnReaves> | I just don't like you |
| [21:02] | <Axeman> | How can you say that, John? |
| [21:02] | <Axeman> | No. |
| [21:02] | <Axeman> | I take that back... |
| [21:02] | <JohnReaves> | Because it's true Axe |
| [21:02] | <Axeman> | It's your right to dislike me. |
| [21:02] | <JohnReaves> | Now open the pod bay doors |
| [21:02] | <Axeman> | You have every right as a human being to like or not like whoever you want. |
| [21:03] | <Axeman> | But I feel bad about this, not because I want to be liked (and maybe it is that), but because. |
| [21:03] | <Axeman> | I'd like to sleep tonight knowing that I've made someone feel better today. |
| [21:03] | <Axeman> | I'd like to change just one person's view of things, make then look on the bright side of things. |
| [21:03] | <Axeman> | Because if I can change one person, I can change the world. |
| [21:03] | <Axeman> | Good night, John. |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | And sleep tonight with this in your mind: |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | There is nothing you, or anyone can do to make me dislike them. Only actions. |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | I like everyone. |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | Now... |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | Farewell. |
| [21:04] | <Axeman> | My friend. |
| [21:04] | <JohnReaves> | I will not do that |
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| [21:05] | <JohnReaves> | Namaste |
| [21:05] | <Axeman> | Likewise. |
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