Hi all, I've debugging for some time this issue, but couldn't find out what's going on. Main problem is that if you set on "kcmshell4 fonts" the toolbar font to Verdana 8 Italic, you get on kwrite for instance a bigger font (it is Verdana, italic, but maybe 10). Fed up with this problem, I hardcoded the font on KToolBar and had exactly the same problem. The results of hard-coding to 7pts and 8pts are the ones at: http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/02/kate-7pt.png http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/02/kate-8pt.png with patches: http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/02/kdelibs-ktoolbar7pt.diff http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/02/kdelibs-ktoolbar8pt.diff Now if you check Konqueror you also get strange stuff behavior from KToolBar: - Right click on the main toolbar - Text Position => Text below Icons (or) Text next to Icons The toolbar will just ignore you (if you set "Only text" you will see all strings cut off because of a lack of space [this reminds me what happens when you run umbrello nowadays with for instance Verdana 10 as main font]). When you try to drag the toolbar, it actually shows the strings you asked for. Someone to give some light on this strange behaviors ? Bye, Rafael Fernández López GPG Fingerprint: B9F4 4730 43F8 FFDD CC5E BA8E 724E 406E 3F01 D070