[17:29:20] <@pho|> (you know they can)
[17:29:25] <+Xeelee> they do their web development using frontpage...
[17:29:28] <@pho|> and then fire youself
[17:29:38] <+Xeelee> naw, need the money
[17:29:39] <+Q1> Xeelee, What??? IT actively refuse using anyting *nix ? USING or supporting?
[17:29:44] <+Xeelee> both
[17:29:49] <@pho|> ok ok no
[17:29:56] <@pho|> no you did not just say that
[17:29:59] <@pho|> front page?
[17:30:02] <@pho|> um
[17:30:03] <+Xeelee> yes, I did
[17:30:04] <+Q1> LOL!
[17:30:06] <+Xeelee> got the code to prove it
[17:30:27] <+Q1> Get out of there... just get up, locate the door and RUN, before they lock it.
[17:30:30] <+Xeelee> http://ruidoz.com/2008/01/27/fresh-e-news-including-html/en/
[17:30:32] <@pho|> how much that cost?
[17:31:12] <@pho|> if its more than zero dollars to get your home page made in front page, then, verizon is killing thier own industry
[17:31:39] <+Xeelee> we don't do anything else for verizon other than answering the phone when you call tech support
[17:32:01] <+Xeelee> you want more proof? take a look at the company's web site
[17:32:07] <@pho|> hopefully maybe you just mean they use front page extension to publish web sites .... and allowing the developers and esighners to use the tools they like to make them
[17:32:08] <+Q1> Damn, I can really see where it would be frustrating
[17:32:14] <+Xeelee> http://www.telvista.com.mx/
[17:32:39] <+Q1> I like working for smaller clients.. and.. I think I'll keep it that way
[17:33:04] <+Xeelee> pho|: face the truth goddamnit, accept they use frontpage for actually creating web pages
[17:33:30] <@pho|> ill die before i accept that
[17:34:06] <@pho|> any idiot can mess up the web with front page, and most idiots realize they are messing up that way
[17:34:37] <@pho|> 50 people dumb enough to equal half a brain could tell you that cant work
[17:35:40] <+Q1> Things are crazy
[17:35:58] <+Xeelee> I do have another post where *supposedly* someone from IT lets their policies show
[17:36:06] <+Xeelee> but it's in Spanish
[17:36:10] <+Q1> Most of the time, I look at the world of computers and think.. this is NOT an improvement.
[17:36:46] <+Xeelee> basically I complained they implemented a caching proxy wrong (squid)
[17:36:58] <@pho|> at least use macromedia ... erm now adobe ... dreamweaver .. or related software to design web sites ... even then, you need a software engineer of some kind to actually implement it
[17:37:20] <+Xeelee> so this guy says 'you fucked up, blah blah'
[17:37:39] <+Q1> I figure, if you can't do it with a text editor, you've got no business making web pages.
[17:37:51] <+Xeelee> oh, he says the network is managed by 20-somethings who barely know how to use ping :)