HwaPyung08 (9:50:35 PM): Yo. Heymbit (9:50:45 PM): yo Heymbit (9:50:47 PM): who is this? HwaPyung08 (9:50:55 PM): someone from iPW. Heymbit (9:51:02 PM): k Heymbit (9:51:09 PM): well you're gonna have to be more specific if you want to talk to me HwaPyung08 (9:53:03 PM): I'm just wondering... why you and the iPH staff are fighting... that kinda threw me off guard. Heymbit (9:53:09 PM): ewll Heymbit (9:53:11 PM): well* Heymbit (9:53:16 PM): they stole from me Heymbit (9:53:24 PM): and want to release a hack from my team's work on it and claim it as their own work Heymbit (9:53:28 PM): and I happen to have a problem with that HwaPyung08 (9:53:44 PM): but even if they did release it, we'd all know it's ur and ur team's hack HwaPyung08 (9:53:56 PM): and they've been trying to discuss it with you. Heymbit (9:54:07 PM): and how would anyone know this is happening if I didn't fight them Heymbit (9:54:12 PM): and they dont' want to discuss it HwaPyung08 (9:54:22 PM): they've been trying to contact you. Heymbit (9:54:22 PM): they want me to agree to allow them to release Windows comes to iPod Video Heymbit (9:54:29 PM): now what do you want HwaPyung08 (9:54:42 PM): i'm just saying.. Heymbit (9:54:50 PM): what are you saying HwaPyung08 (9:55:06 PM): i'm just saying that your hack would be safe even if they did release something like that. HwaPyung08 (9:55:13 PM): you have most of the better members on ur dev team. Heymbit (9:55:15 PM): it's not a matter of the hack being safe Heymbit (9:55:19 PM): it's a matter of right and wrong Heymbit (9:55:33 PM): and the team as of now consists of 5 people HwaPyung08 (9:55:33 PM): well supernatural has said that he's not releasing the hack. Heymbit (9:55:37 PM): 1 of which isn't really working on it Heymbit (9:55:43 PM): 6* Heymbit (9:55:54 PM): the 1 in question has put all his knowledge into this hack, and has produced something great Heymbit (9:55:56 PM): well HwaPyung08 (9:55:58 PM): and i doubt that driven actually released it to him, he's not necessarily like that. Heymbit (9:55:59 PM): supernatural told me he was Heymbit (9:56:03 PM): so that proves supernatural is a lying prick Heymbit (9:56:12 PM): so you can't trust super's word Heymbit (9:56:23 PM): and it's been confirmed that DriveN gave it to him, by multiple people Heymbit (9:56:28 PM): so now what the fuck is your interest in this HwaPyung08 (9:56:36 PM): dude just chill... Heymbit (9:56:38 PM): I've asked many times Heymbit (9:56:40 PM): I want an answer HwaPyung08 (9:56:50 PM): i'm just trying to find a way to settle the whole dispute. Heymbit (9:56:55 PM): they lied to me Heymbit (9:56:56 PM): stole from me Heymbit (9:56:57 PM): mocked me Heymbit (9:57:05 PM): banned me for pointing out their own rules Heymbit (9:57:09 PM): there is on settling this dispute Heymbit (9:57:12 PM): no* Heymbit (9:57:21 PM): now Heymbit (9:57:23 PM): answer my question Heymbit (9:57:25 PM): and tell me why you care Heymbit (9:57:27 PM): or I'll block you Heymbit (9:57:33 PM): and assume you're supernatural/driven/danimal/tyler Heymbit (9:58:12 PM): I've been nice Heymbit (9:58:14 PM): answered all your questions Heymbit (9:58:17 PM): and have only asked one question Heymbit (9:58:21 PM): I think I deserve an answer Heymbit (9:58:29 PM): two questionS* HwaPyung08 (9:58:31 PM): why i care about this? Heymbit (9:58:33 PM): my bad, I did ask who wast his Heymbit (9:58:39 PM): why you want to know/care Heymbit (9:58:44 PM): was this* HwaPyung08 (9:58:58 PM): I care/know because i wanna know both sides of the story. HwaPyung08 (9:59:21 PM): Who I am from iPW/iPH won't be released because I don't want to be brought into this whole mess. Heymbit (9:59:22 PM): just out of curiosity? Heymbit (9:59:29 PM): by asking these questions Heymbit (9:59:33 PM): and contacting myself adn them Heymbit (9:59:37 PM): you've put yourself in the mess HwaPyung08 (9:59:44 PM): I havce not contacted them Heymbit (9:59:45 PM): now I may sound like I'm hostile Heymbit (9:59:48 PM): but you're honestly creeping me out HwaPyung08 (9:59:52 PM): I've been reading from ur thread on iPW. HwaPyung08 (10:00:02 PM): and threads from iPH. Heymbit (10:00:05 PM): thanks. Always nice to talk to a reader Heymbit (10:00:14 PM): anyawys HwaPyung08 (10:00:19 PM): Only person from this whole situation I've contacted is you. That's it. Heymbit (10:00:27 PM): well Heymbit (10:00:37 PM): their point on this issue is that they're not doign anything I'm saying their do Heymbit (10:00:41 PM): and I got banned for no reason whatsoever Heymbit (10:00:47 PM): my point is that they're stolen from me Heymbit (10:00:51 PM): tried to take credit for it Heymbit (10:01:04 PM): by hacking and sending my team's work to hell Heymbit (10:01:15 PM): and banned me in an attempt to cover it up Heymbit (10:01:27 PM): those involved, that I can prove, are Tyler Heymbit (10:01:28 PM): DANimal Heymbit (10:01:30 PM): DriveN Heymbit (10:01:32 PM): and Supernatural Heymbit (10:01:37 PM): of course, there are others I think may be involved Heymbit (10:01:45 PM): but until I can prove that I won't drag their name in the mud HwaPyung08 (10:02:09 PM): Okay... all i wanted was to get your side of the story. Heymbit (10:02:42 PM): now Heymbit (10:02:43 PM): I'm curious Heymbit (10:02:45 PM): what's your take on this issue HwaPyung08 (10:03:11 PM): Personally, I don't want to take sides of the situation. But i do see possible faults on both sides. Heymbit (10:03:18 PM): well Heymbit (10:03:21 PM): don't take side Heymbit (10:03:25 PM): sides* Heymbit (10:03:27 PM): just be honest Heymbit (10:03:41 PM): u can think they're perfect and not take their side, or vice versa Heymbit (10:03:45 PM): I'm just curious how others are seeing this HwaPyung08 (10:04:27 PM): Most of us are confused, baffled on what happened. I didn't find out about this until today, and i'm dissapointed that it wont be kept at iPH as well. HwaPyung08 (10:04:37 PM): But i can see where you come on this. Heymbit (10:04:47 PM): well, I'd be happy to put it up at iPH Heymbit (10:04:59 PM): the administration just won't allow it, for reasons I've said Heymbit (10:05:11 PM): which is why it'll be only up at 2 sites on release HwaPyung08 (10:05:26 PM): Mmk. Heymbit (10:06:06 PM): I'm curious Heymbit (10:06:13 PM): being IP banned, I can't see what's going on at iPH Heymbit (10:06:16 PM): what's going on? HwaPyung08 (10:06:39 PM): Nothing much. iPH is up. Threads are being transferred. Heymbit (10:06:49 PM): I mean Heymbit (10:06:55 PM): in relation to this issue HwaPyung08 (10:07:19 PM): There was a thread. "You've come to the right platform - where has it gone?" HwaPyung08 (10:07:27 PM): Whole buncha people just wondering where it went. Heymbit (10:07:48 PM): you couldn't by any chance take screenshots of every page of that thread Heymbit (10:07:49 PM): for me to see Heymbit (10:07:51 PM): could you Heymbit (10:07:51 PM): ? HwaPyung08 (10:08:56 PM): it didn't get too far... they closed it a while ago =/ Heymbit (10:09:24 PM): hmm Heymbit (10:09:25 PM): still Heymbit (10:09:36 PM): could you take screenshots of all that was taken Heymbit (10:09:39 PM): I'm raelly curious about this Heymbit (10:09:49 PM): and rely on nice people like you for recon HwaPyung08 (10:09:58 PM): even if it's one page? Heymbit (10:10:05 PM): even if it's one post Heymbit (10:10:08 PM): as much or little Heymbit (10:10:12 PM): all of it would be great HwaPyung08 (10:17:30 PM): If i'm not to take any sides... why would i be doing this? Heymbit (10:18:06 PM): helping out Heymbit (10:18:11 PM): they can see my posts Heymbit (10:18:12 PM): I can't see theres Heymbit (10:18:16 PM): this is not taking any sides Heymbit (10:18:21 PM): it's true neutrality Heymbit (10:18:26 PM): as it puts us at equal footing Heymbit (10:18:40 PM): and I'm asking nicely Heymbit (10:18:47 PM): and ur a nice person Heymbit (10:27:44 PM): also Heymbit (10:27:48 PM): I want to know what's going on Heymbit (10:27:58 PM): and I'd like to know why the thread was closed Heymbit (10:31:09 PM): also Heymbit (10:31:12 PM): twinkie is bugging me Heymbit (10:31:17 PM): which could be considered harassment Heymbit (10:31:21 PM): you say you don't want to take sides Heymbit (10:31:23 PM): but something is happening Heymbit (10:31:25 PM): and if you do nothing Heymbit (10:31:29 PM): and something bad happens as a result of it Heymbit (10:31:35 PM): are you willing to live with teh fact that you could've done something Heymbit (10:31:37 PM): and did nothing about it? Heymbit (10:31:43 PM): at the core, that's one of the issues in this conflict Heymbit (10:31:46 PM): you don't want to be drawn into this Heymbit (10:31:46 PM): well Heymbit (10:31:49 PM): don't be drawn into this Heymbit (10:32:02 PM): give me this info Heymbit (10:32:06 PM): so when bugged Heymbit (10:32:09 PM): I know what's going on Heymbit (10:32:19 PM): or just sit around Heymbit (10:32:22 PM): knowing you can do something Heymbit (10:32:23 PM): and choose not to Heymbit (10:32:25 PM): like switzerland Heymbit (10:32:31 PM): and sweden Heymbit (10:32:32 PM): and France HwaPyung08 (10:34:28 PM): twinkie's bothering me too -.- Heymbit (10:34:28 PM): brb HwaPyung08 (10:34:32 PM): ok? HwaPyung08 (10:34:56 PM): accept or decline?? Heymbit (10:35:42 PM): accept or decline what? HwaPyung08 (10:35:50 PM): twinkie's convo. Heymbit (10:36:12 PM): what do you mean? Heymbit (10:36:18 PM): I believe you if you say he's bothering you HwaPyung08 (10:36:30 PM): he's trying to msg me... Heymbit (10:36:36 PM): k Heymbit (10:36:38 PM): that's nice Heymbit (10:36:41 PM): I blocked him ^_^ Heymbit (10:37:29 PM): oh btw Heymbit (10:37:33 PM): what can I call you Heymbit (10:37:37 PM): besides HwaPyung08 HwaPyung08 (10:37:47 PM): nothing else really Heymbit (10:38:03 PM): then I'll call you Hwa for short Heymbit (10:38:09 PM): now, are you going to start being honest with me Heymbit (10:38:11 PM): or should I block you Hwa? HwaPyung08 (10:38:19 PM): no? Heymbit (10:38:26 PM): then start being honest please Heymbit (10:39:51 PM): you're not neutral Heymbit (10:39:53 PM): and you're not just anyone Heymbit (10:39:57 PM): or twinkie wouldn't be talking to you Heymbit (10:40:00 PM): you are involved in this Heymbit (10:40:07 PM): and you're no one on my side Heymbit (10:40:12 PM): as i know everyone on my side Heymbit (10:40:18 PM): so you're on their side Heymbit (10:40:19 PM): so Heymbit (10:40:20 PM): who are you Heymbit (10:40:25 PM): or should I just block you now? HwaPyung08 (10:41:45 PM): just cuz he tries to msg me, it automatically makes me against you? Heymbit (10:43:26 PM): no Heymbit (10:43:31 PM): he doesn't message anyone or everyone Heymbit (10:43:36 PM): he only messages people for a reason Heymbit (10:43:39 PM): which means he has a reason to message you Heymbit (10:43:43 PM): which means you're involved in this Heymbit (10:43:45 PM): and if oyu're involved with this Heymbit (10:43:50 PM): you haven't been honest with me Heymbit (10:43:57 PM): so, please start being honest with me HwaPyung08 (10:47:17 PM): the reason why i started this convo was becasue twinkie wanted me to get to talk to you. He wants to talk with you on AIM to settle some common ground if possible. HwaPyung08 (10:47:57 PM): even if it's only a few moments, just talk with him. he wont be flaming, just wanting to find some common ground HwaPyung08 (10:48:12 PM): XxCrazyTwinkiexX (10:37:47 PM): tell him i want to speak with him... XxCrazyTwinkiexX (10:37:56 PM): i want to come to a damned common grounds HwaPyung08 (10:48:15 PM): this is all he says. Heymbit (10:48:32 PM): we've spoken Heymbit (10:48:38 PM): and you're not answering my questions Heymbit (10:48:40 PM): you're diverting from them Heymbit (10:48:45 PM): he doesn't pick people out of a hat Heymbit (10:48:48 PM): he picked you for a reason Heymbit (10:48:50 PM): what reason is that Heymbit (10:51:54 PM): btw Heymbit (10:51:56 PM): a little OT Heymbit (10:52:10 PM): but do you know where I can get a torrent for Diary of the Dead or Sims 2 Bon Voyage for mac? HwaPyung08 (10:52:22 PM): the pirate bay? Heymbit (10:52:29 PM): tried there Heymbit (10:52:33 PM): and now that you're back Heymbit (10:52:39 PM): please answer the above question about why Twink chose you HwaPyung08 (10:53:00 PM): he didn't choose me. HwaPyung08 (10:53:13 PM): and if you can't believe that, that go right ahead. Heymbit (10:53:37 PM): he did'nt choose you? Heymbit (10:53:40 PM): so you contacted him then? HwaPyung08 (10:54:14 PM): i was talking with you. I told him that i was talking with you, and i try to see if you would talk with him to settle this. Heymbit (10:54:25 PM): hmm Heymbit (10:54:30 PM): so either you're lying to me now Heymbit (10:54:33 PM): or you lied to me earlier HwaPyung08 (10:54:45 PM): or neither. Heymbit (10:54:47 PM): either way Heymbit (10:54:49 PM): your lying HwaPyung08 (10:54:50 PM): i am on neither side. Heymbit (10:54:56 PM): your lying to me Heymbit (10:54:59 PM): and I don't trust liars HwaPyung08 (10:55:02 PM): i want this small quarrel to be settled. Heymbit (10:55:33 PM): u told me earlier you've only contacted me Heymbit (10:55:39 PM): now you say you're in contact wiht me and twinkie HwaPyung08 (10:55:41 PM): that was earlier. Heymbit (10:55:42 PM): so either your lying now Heymbit (10:55:44 PM): or you lied earlier HwaPyung08 (10:55:59 PM): i contacted him at the time i sent u that part of the convo. Heymbit (10:56:15 PM): so how did you send me part of a convo you hadn't started? HwaPyung08 (10:56:39 PM): what makes you think that i didn't start it Heymbit (10:56:55 PM): that's not an answer Heymbit (10:57:04 PM): that's just some random thing of no meaning Heymbit (10:57:06 PM): meant to distract HwaPyung08 (10:57:32 PM): I did start that convo, and you're just assuming that i hadn't inorder to get me to say something else. HwaPyung08 (10:58:05 PM): it's not meant to distract. HwaPyung08 (10:58:22 PM): i contacted him saying that if he wants to talk with you, now's the time to do it since i'm talking with you HwaPyung08 (10:58:33 PM): i'm trying to get this quarrel settled so no side ends up hurt. Heymbit (10:58:56 PM): so in other words HwaPyung08 (10:59:01 PM): i just need an answer if you will or will not talk with him Heymbit (10:59:03 PM): you told someone I blocked to contact me Heymbit (10:59:06 PM): aka you told someone to harass me Heymbit (10:59:12 PM): I've already talked with him Heymbit (10:59:17 PM): and told him how this can end HwaPyung08 (10:59:19 PM): i never told him to im you. Heymbit (10:59:19 PM): if he wants it to end Heymbit (10:59:22 PM): ok Heymbit (10:59:25 PM): how else will he contact me Heymbit (10:59:28 PM): come to my house or call at 1 am? Heymbit (10:59:36 PM): when he has no clue what my number is Heymbit (10:59:37 PM): who I am Heymbit (10:59:39 PM): or where I live? HwaPyung08 (10:59:40 PM): i asked him if he wanted me to ask you to talk with him. HwaPyung08 (11:00:00 PM): which the only way to do so, is to see if you will unblock him to settle this. Heymbit (11:00:04 PM): "i contacted him saying that if he wants to talk with you, now's the time to do it since i'm talking with you" Heymbit (11:00:19 PM): I told him the only way this can be settled Heymbit (11:00:24 PM): it's up to him now if he wants it to be settled Heymbit (11:00:47 PM): if he doesn't Heymbit (11:00:59 PM): then he doesn't have the ability to admit to the public that he made a mistake Heymbit (11:01:06 PM): and he can't get rid of a problem Heymbit (11:01:07 PM): if he does Heymbit (11:01:11 PM): then the issue will be settled Heymbit (11:01:15 PM): for the time being Heymbit (11:01:18 PM): I'm both winning and wo Heymbit (11:01:19 PM): won* Heymbit (11:01:22 PM): I've made the terms to settle Heymbit (11:01:25 PM): and if they refuse to meet them Heymbit (11:01:29 PM): then they're the ones continuing this HwaPyung08 (11:01:41 PM): but ur automatically assuming that he was a part of this.. i still dont understand how. Heymbit (11:01:47 PM): he is part of this Heymbit (11:01:52 PM): It's not an assumption Heymbit (11:02:13 PM): I can take a few hours explaining, in detail, this entier conflict, it's roots, and where it is now Heymbit (11:02:22 PM): or you can just believe me when I say he's part of it Heymbit (11:02:52 PM): personally, I don't think either of us care enough to prove he's invovled to sit for a few hours for an explanation Heymbit (11:02:54 PM): if you do, then I will Heymbit (11:02:57 PM): to prove I'm being honest Heymbit (11:03:00 PM): and I'm in the right Heymbit (11:03:11 PM): but again Heymbit (11:03:18 PM): do you really want to sit for the next few hours talking about it? HwaPyung08 (11:03:28 PM): i just want to know how he was a part of it. Heymbit (11:03:32 PM): ok Heymbit (11:03:33 PM): well Heymbit (11:03:41 PM): I'm gonna say it in briefs Heymbit (11:03:44 PM): just to save time Heymbit (11:03:47 PM): if you awnt to know more Heymbit (11:03:51 PM): then I'll put some coffee on Heymbit (11:03:52 PM): anyways Heymbit (11:04:01 PM): when the hack began a month ago Heymbit (11:04:10 PM): Supernatural was originally going to be a team member Heymbit (11:04:13 PM): I told him what I was planning Heymbit (11:04:16 PM): a few of the features in it Heymbit (11:04:18 PM): and asked if he was interested Heymbit (11:04:20 PM): he said no Heymbit (11:04:22 PM): the next day Heymbit (11:04:27 PM): he talks to me about this new proejct he's starting Heymbit (11:04:30 PM): that's exactly the same as mine Heymbit (11:04:31 PM): I say wtf man Heymbit (11:04:36 PM): accuse him of stealing my ideas Heymbit (11:04:37 PM): which he did Heymbit (11:04:39 PM): so he blocked me Heymbit (11:04:41 PM): so I say fine Heymbit (11:04:44 PM): form a big team Heymbit (11:04:45 PM): and start the hack Heymbit (11:04:45 PM): well Heymbit (11:04:52 PM): DriveN (xxDriveNxx, aaron) Heymbit (11:04:53 PM): was on the team Heymbit (11:04:58 PM): he was going to look over things Heymbit (11:05:04 PM): use his experience from touch and classic hack Heymbit (11:05:09 PM): thorughout Heymbit (11:05:15 PM): I heard more and more about what Supernatural was doing Heymbit (11:05:19 PM): and told Twinkie about it Heymbit (11:05:26 PM): and about how I was worried he was going to steal this hack and take credit Heymbit (11:05:28 PM): he said shrug it off Heymbit (11:05:29 PM): ignore it Heymbit (11:05:29 PM): etc. Heymbit (11:05:32 PM): which is what I did Heymbit (11:05:34 PM): then Heymbit (11:05:43 PM): DriveN gave Supernatural a list of features Heymbit (11:05:48 PM): that weren't added yet Heymbit (11:05:50 PM): and the current firmware Heymbit (11:06:16 PM): which Supernatural used to start what he calls Windows comes to iPod or You've Come To The Supernatural Platform or whatever the hell he's gonan call it Heymbit (11:06:20 PM): I'm not really sure as I don't talk to him Heymbit (11:06:20 PM): anyways Heymbit (11:06:23 PM): I told Twinkie Heymbit (11:06:24 PM): what the hell Heymbit (11:06:26 PM): why didn't you listen to me Heymbit (11:06:31 PM): I said this would happen if you did nothing and ignored it Heymbit (11:06:33 PM): in response to that Heymbit (11:06:37 PM): he IP banned me Heymbit (11:06:45 PM): to cover up Heymbit (11:06:47 PM): that he made a mistake Heymbit (11:06:52 PM): and did nothing about supernatural Heymbit (11:06:56 PM): because that would imply he's wrong Heymbit (11:06:59 PM): he made a mistake Heymbit (11:07:01 PM): and he holds responsibility Heymbit (11:07:04 PM): as he knew what was going on Heymbit (11:07:07 PM): and could've stopped it Heymbit (11:07:09 PM): but chose not to Heymbit (11:07:14 PM): that's his involvement in this Heymbit (11:07:15 PM): and honestly Heymbit (11:07:21 PM): I think he may be working a bit with Supernatural Heymbit (11:07:23 PM): I have no proof of that Heymbit (11:07:24 PM): what so ever Heymbit (11:07:30 PM): what I can prove is what I said up to the IP Ban and reason why Heymbit (11:07:42 PM): that's his involvement in this Heymbit (11:07:48 PM): and he refuses to fix the situation Heymbit (11:08:22 PM): he wants to pretend nothing's happened Heymbit (11:08:25 PM): and live in this fantasy world Heymbit (11:08:29 PM): where Supernatural is still allowed to do what he wants Heymbit (11:08:50 PM): and I have a problem with that Heymbit (11:08:52 PM): for obvious reasons HwaPyung08 (11:09:06 PM): do you still have convos of super telling you that he was going to make that hack? Heymbit (11:09:08 PM): DANimal followed suit with Tyler Heymbit (11:09:10 PM): I don't Heymbit (11:09:12 PM): as I don't keep logs Heymbit (11:09:14 PM): and even if I did Heymbit (11:09:17 PM): I would never give them to anyone Heymbit (11:09:18 PM): for 2 reasons Heymbit (11:09:24 PM): 1. IMing is private. I respect that Heymbit (11:09:28 PM): 2. Chat logs can easily be changed Heymbit (11:09:35 PM): I could change it to make him look like a Nazi Heymbit (11:09:37 PM): he could change it Heymbit (11:09:41 PM): The pope can change it Heymbit (11:09:46 PM): they're not real proof of anything Heymbit (11:09:55 PM): my proof of that is any hack he releases that is anything similar Heymbit (11:09:59 PM): and if he doesn't release anything Heymbit (11:10:01 PM): well I have my story Heymbit (11:10:11 PM): while it's not proof enough for everyone Heymbit (11:10:14 PM): Tyler knows it's true Heymbit (11:10:18 PM): and he holds the power to ban him Heymbit (11:10:20 PM): and get rid of the problem Heymbit (11:10:24 PM): which by end day is all that matters Heymbit (11:10:33 PM): Supernatural at this point probably won't release anything Heymbit (11:10:34 PM): due to what I've said Heymbit (11:10:38 PM): which in itself is a victory Heymbit (11:10:40 PM): as he can't steal at this point Heymbit (11:10:41 PM): but if he does Heymbit (11:10:47 PM): then it'll be proof of everything I've said Heymbit (11:10:50 PM): which is a victory for me Heymbit (11:10:55 PM): as hopefully the iPod community (both iPH and iPW) Heymbit (11:10:58 PM): will turn their back on him Heymbit (11:11:04 PM): so either he fades in the darkness one way or the other Heymbit (11:11:08 PM): which is victory for me Heymbit (11:11:13 PM): which is why any settlement in this issue Heymbit (11:11:15 PM): must involve an apology Heymbit (11:11:19 PM): and a ban for supernatural Heymbit (11:11:23 PM): not just for me Heymbit (11:11:29 PM): and what he did to me and the rest of the team working on this hack Heymbit (11:11:34 PM): but also so he can't do this again Heymbit (11:11:41 PM): now Heymbit (11:11:47 PM): can I prove any of this beyond a reasonable doubt Heymbit (11:11:48 PM): of course not Heymbit (11:11:51 PM): but look at what's happened Heymbit (11:11:53 PM): the thread being taken down Heymbit (11:11:55 PM): me being banned Heymbit (11:12:05 PM): a thread asking what happened being closed Heymbit (11:12:08 PM): the hack not allowed to be posted at iPH Heymbit (11:12:10 PM): explain that Heymbit (11:12:34 PM): the reason for it all is that the admins at iPH (not all of them. DriveN, DANimal, TYler, Supernatural, and possibly more) are trying to cover this all up Heymbit (11:12:41 PM): Matthew, right now, is the only admin that I like and trust Heymbit (11:12:44 PM): he's been good and helpful Heymbit (11:12:49 PM): but, sadly, he's not enough Heymbit (11:12:52 PM): no one man is enough Heymbit (11:12:54 PM): except two Heymbit (11:13:03 PM): 1. Tyler - who can ban Super and make an apology Heymbit (11:13:19 PM): 2. Supernatural - Obviously, he can admit his wrongs, apologize, and try to be a decent person Heymbit (11:13:25 PM): that's all I'm looking for Heymbit (11:13:29 PM): but until that happens Heymbit (11:13:31 PM): I keep fighting this Heymbit (11:13:38 PM): and if any of them have a problem with it Heymbit (11:13:43 PM): then maybe they need to fix this situation Heymbit (11:13:46 PM): as they're the one in the wrong Heymbit (11:13:52 PM): ok, the 3 hours was an exaggeration Heymbit (11:14:10 PM): anything else you'd like to know? (and I should probably copy this down, for the next person who asks)