I can't complain about fake grain. Still looks great. <%b9AcE> I don't understand all this fiddling around. I just want it to look like it does on the source media. Hmm Well, then I guess you are satisified with SEPTiC releases? Because I'm not. :-\ <%b9AcE> No? Bad AR and edge enhancements are not on source media? Well, I've seen the same on some blind releases too But I'm not trying to get into an argument about groups <%b9AcE> Yes. It is common. I still don't understand why... <+Ryoken> ESiR and CtrlHD .. and old iLL.. that's about all I get.. Same here Ryoken.. But I do get some SEPTiC releases And of course, fix the sync before watching the SEP's :-P I'm not a big fan of this new group Chakra, either <@MartinRiggs> time for a short nap <@MartinRiggs> see you later Later And that one 30 days of night that got put up on here by the R**District or whatever <%b9AcE> To apply smoothing for easier compression, maybe I could understand but not like. But the rest, I just don't get it. Meh <%Ijiin> woha I like a little grain whoring every now and again. Makes some releases look phenomenal. Movies that should have had it to begin with. <%b9AcE> But that should be up to the director, not the encoder (in my opinion). Well, a lot of the time, the director has no part in the encoding [remember, before we get blu-rays, they go through an encoding house] ----A CHALLENGER APPEARS---- <@xring> :)) <%b9AcE> Yeah, but if the people encoding to disc modifies the look of the movie, that is even worse. The goal as I see it should be to achieve an experience as much as possible like it would have been in the cinema. Which is why I do enjoy grain. <@xring> (19:01:54) I think I was going to get the ESiR rip but it looked like it had too much smoothing .. Yes? * hailgodset91 (~opera@P2PNET-F4E8AE25.bb.online.no) has joined #bit-hdtv <@xring> i wander what you would say if you got 2 movies for comparison ...? Excuse me? <@xring> same ar and resolution <@xring> septic and ctlrhd for example <@xring> you could not see a difference in 4 time of 5 <@xring> there are bunch of septics encodes <@xring> that look great .. [-02:10:47AM-] I'm sorry but at a certain point, I stop seeing a distinguishable difference in encodes <@xring> and only problem is You and that fellow seem to share that same mindset. I, feel that is a slap in the face for the encoding group CtrlHD put actual work into encoding <@xring> :)) <@xring> sure they do While a scene group like SEPTiC, just grab the source, run it through a command line, and upload it. A scene group release will never hold a candle to an internal Which is why I'd take a BLiND over SEPTiC anyday. Despite people hating on it. <@xring> thats fanboys talking No, that's truth talking. <@xring> like i said Fuck scene groups. <@xring> i could show you some movies Go ahead. And I'll show you EVERY SINGLE SEPTIC RELEASE LOSING SYNC <@xring> where you did not notice difference Why? <+Ryoken> Internals > Scene . 99% of the time. fact. <@xring> except ar and resolution Because they don't actually review it. <@xring> due stupid mod16 rules <@xring> fanboys > scene <@xring> 100% fact <+Ryoken> I've downloaded my fair share of scene and been stuck waiting for an internal to get it done right.. <@xring> well prejudice plays an important part in all this <@xring> its looks similar to hdbits fanboys <@xring> but for example septics jesse james <@xring> was ok <@xring> they even cropped video to keep OAR <@xring> and only 1 reason why ctrlhd is proper over it <@xring> is resolution <@xring> sync issues - maybe <@xring> as its hddvd and they dont give some time for it <+Ryoken> Every Reveille I've downloaded has had sync issues.. <@xring> or as it bluray scene sucks <@xring> scene improves improves what? <@xring> itself <@xring> encoding quality etc <@xring> and one thing for sure sucks <@xring> attitude <@xring> prejudice to be exact yeah, they improve from impossible to watch to very bad <@xring> and after all, ctrlhd is not a miravle <@xring> miracle <@xring> bunch of encoders with same profiles <@xring> encoding over and over again <+BHD-bot> | New torrent: Terminator.The.Sarah.Connor.Chronicles.S01E06.720p.HDTV.x264-Funner | Cat.: TV | x264 | | 720p | Uploader: krokodil0 | http://www.bit-hdtv.com/details.php?id=13777 <@xring> so please dont put esir and ctlhd on the sema chair:) <@xring> same* <+Ryoken> And yet it always looks better.. * tJev (~qaz89qaz@P2PNET-987C09E3.tbcn.telia.com) has left #bit-hdtv +1 * solvit (~a@P2PNET-17D5606A.red.bezeqint.net) Quit (Ping timeout) Alright I'm back now And, I'm still slightly irked that you called me a "fanboy" I'm speaking purely from experience, over the past 6 months From being only allowed scene released, to having the pleasure of experiencing internal rips You claiming that all the encoders use the same profile in ctrlhd, is pure and utter bullshit You have no right to judge a group based off of how you were treated over one of your releases. <@xring> :)) * solvit (solvit@P2PNET-17D5606A.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #bit-hdtv I've had one on one's hundreds of times with multiple CtrlHD encoders, all of which use their own methods, so your claim of "same profiles" is utter nonsense. <@xring> sure Xring, I saw how people treated you, and it wasn't right. But you can't take away countless hours of work from people, just because of your bad experience. <@xring> my talks came from despair <@xring> im glad that you solved my problem * RMacGrego (~robmac813@P2PNET-BE5503A3.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Broken pipe) I'm not attempting to solve any problem. It just seems like because of how you were treated, you'd prefer a scene release? Like Ryoken said, every Reveille rls, sync issues. As I said, every SEPTiC rls, sync issues When it's a race, no one wins You just get cold, lifeless encodes. source -> command line -> upload agree <@xring> im glad that you think that all i said is becouse of that accident with jesse james:)) Take sportcenter's encode of Apocalypto. He spent over 50 hours on that [of course that includes encoding time.. But on a q6600, it's a quick job]... In other words, he redid it over 3 times to get it proper and on-point. <@xring> but generaly its sad that you dont give even a second to think that there might be a little bit of truth Now, you take a scene release.. They only rerelease it if people in their own group notice a problem Which a lot of the time, doesn't happen For instance, Michael Clayton's release by SEPTiC scene rules are stupid and wrong Had a sync fix Now.... I have RARELY ever seen a sync fix come from this group But yet, every one of their releases needs a sync fix they don't even watch it after they encode Exactly. So no, it's not fanboy. It's experience. When you get fucked in the ass by wasting your credit, you tend to learn a thing or two. A little bit of truth in what, xring? The fact that you are DEFENDING the scene? <@xring> ffs :)) The fact that it appears your hatred has sprouted from this one incident? <%Ijiin> lo lo lo lo <@xring> first i dont give ashit about that incident who hates who? <@xring> second i love everybody :) http://fukung.net/v/6116/917471671_61f2f1bc19_o.jpg <@xring> i wanted to say that some scene encodes are good enough <@xring> that you could not see a difference specially when i'm drunk <@xring> if it had same resolution <@xring> and files were untaggeg sure <@xring> d. but it's rare <+Ryoken> No such thing as "Good Enough" when dealing with HD.. It's great.. or less than. <@xring> so bashing scene generaly is lame Well xring, you bashing CtrlHD for no reason at all is lame I mean hell man [-09:04:07AM-] But I'm not trying to get into an argument about groups Then what did you do, the instant you joined the conversation? <@xring> i have my reasons You began bashing. <@xring> and all those reasons are not related to me personaly You went as far as to say CtrlHD uses the same scripts for encoding? I mean come on man, how much more hatred can you express that you have to lie? If anything, SCENE groups use the same encoding parameters. <@xring> lol * tJev (~qaz89qaz@P2PNET-987C09E3.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #bit-hdtv Like I said earlier, when it's a race, nobody wins I didn't try and start shit xring, hell I even tried to avoid having this whole group argument But you pushed it, for no reason at all. And you called me a fanboy? On what grounds? <@xring> i pushed it with my hatred:)) <@xring> ffs i have a real life <@xring> and thing to hate there <@xring> or love I mean come on man, sure seems like you were just blindly trying to start shit about anything <@xring> i was trying to tell you some things that are true * RMacGrego (~robmac813@P2PNET-BE5503A3.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #bit-hdtv <@xring> but looks like i did not succeed ... OK, so I guess because I fucking prefer to have enjoyable content I don't have a real life? You tried to pass off lies and opinions as truth. <@xring> lies <@xring> sure:) And calling someone a fanboy, who you claim to be showing the light to, isn't helping your cause <@xring> i had worked on my plan to spread som lies deadfire: is it anything wrong with beeing a fanboy? Whatever xring. You go ahead and believe whatever you want. Go ahead, tell more lies and try and talk shit on things that don't appreciate you. I'm done man <@xring> how else i can call anyone who bashes scnene just becouse its scene <@xring> :))) <+Ryoken> Fanboi is something who loves something without reason.. thus it's always an insult.. Exactly. <@xring> yes thats an insult I have experience. <@xring> sure you do Honestly man, you are a prick. I tried avoiding this whole spiel But no, you had to fucking push it I don't get it <@xring> and your experience became a standart I like this place And I like the people, but your ignorance is just unfathomable. <@xring> my ignorance:)) Yes. what does infathomable mean? *un of depth; not capable of being sounded or measured @ http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=unfathomable ( http://www.google.com/search?q=define:unfathomable ) <@xring> ignorance is to tell that all scene sucks <@xring> thats what i was trying to say ok Ignorance is to support something that doesn't care about what they release, but rather cares about the time in which they release it. <@xring> i did not support anything !user deadfire <+BHD-bot> deadfire - Class: (User) - Uploaded: (134.44 GB) - Downloaded: (29.44 GB) - Ratio: (4.57) - Bonus: (501.50) - Invites: (0) - http://www.bit-hdtv.com/userdetails.php?id=80645 <@xring> you need to start read what iwrite Well, when I can hardly understand it, it becomes slightly hard to read it. But, if you are saying that it is ignorant to say "all scene sucks", then that is supporting it. <@xring> its client side problem Yea... Your mIRC makes you mispell your statements. <@xring> youre escalating this shit I have more then ONCE tried to drop this shit <@xring> and that is strating to annoy me Do you think I want to argue with someone who has power? No, because you can easily ban me. I already stated I like this place, I like the people. I've tried multiple times to change the subject. !user xring <+BHD-bot> xring (Retired part-time fetish) - Class: (Moderator) - Uploaded: (3.09 TB) - Downloaded: (251.70 GB) - Ratio: (12.59) - Bonus: (569.50) - Invites: (20) - http://www.bit-hdtv.com/userdetails.php?id=36482 Yet, you keep pushing this issue. So you obviously have something to prove. It's incredulous, and I'm over it. or perhaps he is just bored... <@xring> or maybe i have my believes Beliefs. EXACTLY> So stop trying to pass them off as facts. or maybe you hate deadfire :P <@xring> and i cant be such lame to ban someone just for other opinion <@xring> its enough that we have hdbits besides <@xring> where some get bans <@xring> for most ridiculious reasons Well, if you called me a fanboy for no reason other then to try and mock me biasly, I can imagine you slung worse things to those who humiliated your release. <@xring> and you got again to it <@xring> read: <@xring> i dont care about it ... <@xring> its pathetic and even funny You are the most hypocritical man I have ever met. <@xring> that whole hdbits leet encoders <@xring> bashed release, sized thice less Thank you for this conversation. But good lord, I can't continue this. You hate on something blindly, support something that shouldn't be supported, then when you are called out on it, "I don't care" "I'm not defending anything" <@xring> for quality <@xring> and claimed that i used filters:)) <@xring> take your time to read it again So you go ahead and live in your land where you claim you don't have time to worry about things, but then bash on them.. But I won't give into your blindness. <@xring> maybe you will understand something <@xring> blindness? <@xring> ffs thats you that one whos blind <@xring> i was trying to tell some facts that might be true <@xring> and at least they deserve some consideration opinions* <@xring> facts lol a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty you guys are killing me.. <@xring> fact 1 - some scene encodes are good Opinion: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty [-09:39:00AM-] <@xring> or maybe i have my believes [-09:41:45AM-] You are the most hypocritical man I have ever met. <@xring> fact 2 - you could not tell the difference between your praised group and scene encode professing feelings or virtues one does not have <@xring> go ahead <@xring> trach me some basic things talking about ESiR, are we? <%b9AcE> Wow. A B-2 plane has crashed. They cost $7.5 billion U.S. a piece... <@xring> how to live and act <+Ryoken> and ctrlhd and septic and reveille.. <+BHD-bot> | New torrent: Asstraffic - Kasey1080p | Cat.: XXX | x264 | | 1080p | Uploader: pbg165 | http://www.bit-hdtv.com/details.php?id=13778 b9AcE: yeah i heard about it earlier this day I'm not trying to teach you ANYTHING. I'm quoting things you say, and showing that you contradict yourself constantly! You are the one who claims you are trying to TEACH ME! * Agamemnon teaches the voices in his head a lesson <@xring> well its you that one who has 6 months experience <@xring> and ive been looking at scene encodes from the begining DANG IM IMPRESSED. <@xring> and i can tell how they improved <@xring> and i can tell that you cant see it <@xring> as you clam that it all sucks Xring, you are foolish beyond all belief. <~siulas> break it ffs I'm done. hehe I've ignored you. I've tried to drop this plenty of times, but you resort to personal attacks. and he knows how to get you going, doesnt he? :) <@xring> you are too stupid to understand what im saying If I wanted to attack you personally, I could have gone and mocked your grammar or anything of that nature. I could have blindly just attacked your releases. But I'm a bigger man then that. Yet you call me a fanboy, say that because I've been in internal groups for 6 months that I have no experience. hehe <@xring> grammar:) <@xring> grammar my ass <+Ryoken> Improved.. from utter shit to .. ? Improved does not mean they are as good as nonscene... and I've been around for more than 6months.. I can tell the diff between a 1080 and 720 movie on my 1366x768 tv.. so I can see the diff between a septic and a blind and a ctrlhd and esir encodes.. !addquote <@xring> take your time to read it again | <@xring> maybe you will understand something | <@xring> ffs thats you that one whos blind -BHD-bot- Chi Chinga... Anyways. How is everyones day? great :D better seeing a fight like this :) :-) I'm just glad I'm still here, and not banned. <+Ryoken> There's still time deadfire ;) I didn't want to get involved in a fight, regardless of authority. <%b9AcE> xring would never band someone for stating their opinion. well, like xring mentioned he doesnt ban ppl for random reasons <%b9AcE> ban* exactly <~siulas> i do... :D