Session Start: Sat Mar 15 11:28:01 2008
Session Ident: <b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>
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 00[11:28:01] ::: Query with (<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>)/(<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">whatman</b>@what.cd) opened on (Saturday, March 15th 2008, 11:28:01).
 00[11:28:01] ::: Total queries: (191)/(~1.6 per day)
 00[11:28:01] ::: Queries today: (1)
 00[11:28:01] ::: Common channels: (&#what.cd-help ~#what.cd-disabled ~#what.cd ~#admin)
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 00[11:28:56] [MattieTK]: bit pissed off actually
[11:29:04] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: How come?
 00[11:29:07] [MattieTK]: incase you didn't have logs or haven't been filled in from last night
[11:29:15] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: I don't.
[11:29:17] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: And haven't.
 00[11:29:30] [MattieTK]: sec
 00[11:29:38] [MattieTK]: it's just about people getting "second chances" all the time
[11:30:08] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Weren't you the one who was advocating second chances?
 00[11:30:27] [MattieTK]: not of people like this
 00[11:31:28] [MattieTK]: basicly, at the moment, despite ratio requirements being in place for 2 more weeks now
 00[11:31:35] [MattieTK]: i'm afraid of disabling people becuase of it
 00[11:32:02] [MattieTK]: becuase i know that i won't be there to handle their case, and they'll get enabled, or i'll get a beating for disabling someone with 0.09 ratio at 5.01GB down
 00[11:32:28] [MattieTK]: logicaluser enabled someone who has 15GB down and less than 500GB up
 00[11:32:30] [MattieTK]: for a second chance
[11:32:44] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: 500MB, I assume you mean.
 00[11:32:45] [MattieTK]: the guy was leeching/partial seeding one file
 00[11:32:47] [MattieTK]: yes
 00[11:32:48] [MattieTK]: sorry
 00[11:33:12] [MattieTK]: so i dissabled him again, becuase i'm so sick of my decisions being overturned becuase they're ratio related disables
 00[11:33:22] [MattieTK]: and for some reason they're allowed to be
 00[11:33:39] [MattieTK]: and some one liek that should never be enabled, i don't care about their excuse
 00[11:33:49] [MattieTK]: they got themselves into that situation somehow
[11:34:49] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Did you interview the guy?
 00[11:34:50] [MattieTK]: and firstly qMark told me again that i shouldnt be overturning other moderator's decisions, which i fine, but logicaluser technically overturned mine, and i'm only disabling the extreme abusers atm
 00[11:35:05] [MattieTK]: no, logicaluser would have done
[11:35:17] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Maybe he was an i-doser noob.
[11:35:26] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: On oink, these people got second chances as well.
 00[11:35:29] [MattieTK]: but i wouldnt have even got to that point, we shouldn't have to interview everyone and hear them make up a astory about how their nan got their account
 00[11:35:43] [MattieTK]: the torrents are clearly labelled
 00[11:35:49] [MattieTK]: i did it as my first action as staff
 00[11:35:59] [MattieTK]: if they cannot read, they don't deserve their accounts
 00[11:36:22] ::: (azc) highlighted you in (#underground): !compare azc MattieTK
 00[11:36:23] ::: (athrerBot) highlighted you in (#underground): Compatibility for: azc <=> MattieTK Score: low (6.42%)
[11:36:52] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Well, it's certainly a point of view. But if they keep leeching, they're going to get disabled anyways.
[11:37:04] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: And LogicalUser adds these people to his friends list so he can watch them.
[11:37:07] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: As far as I know.
 00[11:38:57] [MattieTK]: well i'm no longer disabling people for ratio if they're not going to be seen by me
 00[11:39:05] [MattieTK]: and get seen by one of the softmods who enables everyone they see
 00[11:39:43] [MattieTK]: especially when qmark implied last night that the rules can be broken freely, becuase everyone deserves a second chance
 00[11:40:30] ::: Nick: (<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>) is now known as (WhereMan)
 00[11:58:06] ::: Nick: (WhereMan) is now known as (<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>)
Session Close: Sat Mar 15 12:06:17 2008

Session Start: Sat Mar 15 12:21:15 2008
Session Ident: <b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>
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 00[12:21:15] ::: Query with (<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>)/(<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">whatman</b>@what.cd) opened on (Saturday, March 15th 2008, 12:21:15).
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 00[12:21:15] ::: Queries today: (3)
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[12:21:15] <<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>> hi.
 00[12:21:25] [MattieTK]: don't need that anymore
 00[12:21:28] : MattieTK turns off
[12:21:31] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Haha
 00[12:21:36] [MattieTK]: hilarious
[12:21:50] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Okay, I was going to do a lengthy explanation, but you noticed before I'd gotten everything planned.
 00[12:22:02] [MattieTK]: how ironic that i was busy moderating
[12:22:20] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Basically, we learned a few hours ago that people are still getting information about what goes on in #admin from you.
[12:22:37] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: I'm not going to talk about names or circumstances, but that's how it went.
[12:22:48] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: So we had to make a snap decision.
[12:23:13] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Since we'd already talked to you about this, this was the only step we could take.
 00[12:23:14] [MattieTK]: if you didn't have just overzealoius adminsitrators i wouldn't feel the need to vent
 00[12:23:32] [MattieTK]: have felt*
[12:24:22] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Are you talking about qMark?
 00[12:24:27] ::: (RoBz) highlighted you in (#waffles.fm-help) on (P2P-NET): So, Mattie you're moving over to waffles now?
 00[12:24:41] [MattieTK]: of coruse i'm talking about qmark, though dblaze should never have been promoted either
[12:25:20] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: What's your beef with qMark?
[12:25:33] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: He's honestly one of the three staff members I've never seen seriously fuck up.
 00[12:26:00] [MattieTK]: nevermind
 00[12:26:02] [MattieTK]: i could go on and on
 00[12:26:06] [MattieTK]: but it would be my opinion
 00[12:26:09] [MattieTK]: and it would mean fuck all
 00[12:26:11] [MattieTK]: especially now
[12:26:50] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Well, I want you to know that this demotion wasn't a personal thing - it was simply to protect us from an obvious information leakage.
 00[12:27:01] [MattieTK]: from the person who did it
 00[12:27:04] [MattieTK]: i see it as personal
 00[12:27:13] [MattieTK]: qmark has never sided with a single word i've ever said
[12:27:20] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: I was the one who removed your IRC access.
 00[12:27:46] [MattieTK]: i dod most of that myself after i saw 71PMs
 00[12:27:51] [MattieTK]: and one which didnt seem to appear at the top
 00[12:28:00] [MattieTK]: franticly freshsing to try and find a user requiring my help
 00[12:28:09] [MattieTK]: oh, no, it's from 431 weeks ago
[12:29:10] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: It was my decision, and it wasn't a personal thing.
[12:29:22] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: qMark just does my bidding.
 00[12:29:26] [MattieTK]: there's nothing you can say to make me believe that
 00[12:29:33] [MattieTK]: qMark manipulates everyone to do his bidding
 00[12:29:41] [MattieTK]: everyone but me
 00[12:29:46] [MattieTK]: that's why i had to be gotten rid of
[12:30:15] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: I was the one who brought it up. Really.
 00[12:30:29] [MattieTK]: [12:29:26] [MattieTK]: there's nothing you can say to make me believe that
[12:30:49] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Alright, suit yourself. I have to go make dinner, and I'm not going to spend hours trying to convince you.
 00[12:30:54] [MattieTK]: get your rules sorted out
 00[12:31:01] [MattieTK]: get a staff team that doesnt fight
 00[12:31:05] [MattieTK]: then gazelle might work
 00[12:31:11] [MattieTK]: suppose you've just sorted #2
[12:31:20] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Pretty much.
 07[12:31:34] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Good luck in everything, Mattie.
 00[12:31:49] [MattieTK]: you too, nice job getting rid of the seedbox just on time
 00[12:31:58] [MattieTK]: wonder if they'd still believe me
[12:32:11] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: Meh. It expired and no one ever used it for what it was intended for.
[12:32:20] [<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>]: So it went bye bye.
 00[12:32:40] [MattieTK]: thanks for those 2 lines
 00[12:34:00] ::: Nick: (<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">WhatMan</b>) is now known as (WhereMan)