[15:17] * PheNoMeNaL (PheNoMeNaL@privatehost-B83C16DA.tu.ok.cox.net) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:18] Hey guys, I have this problem with a game called Knight OnLine, the game loads up fine and everything, but then when i finally conenct to other people, there are white spots where they shouldnt be, such as, my character, the chat, white squares on the floor, anyway to resolve this? [15:18] ÷PheNoMeNaL÷ - what type of video card do you have? [15:18] Im not sure [15:19] it sounds like you're running out of video memory... or the game could be bad... not sure... [15:19] if your talking about this, SiS_650_651_740 [15:19] is it the type that streams like it's completely hosted on a website you log into or do you download it to your computer? [15:19] you download it to your computer [15:20] its a full screen game [15:21] one sec... gonna look up specs on the game... [15:21] ok [15:21] how fast is your processor? [15:22] 2.20ghz? [15:23] i have an intel pentium 4 processor [15:23] 2001 computer [15:23] * IceGuest_7 (IceChat7@privatehost-C1A93349.swan.cable.ntl.com) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:23] yep... i saw that when i was lookin' up for that video card... :) [15:23] * IceGuest_7_ (IceChat7@privatehost-C1A93349.swan.cable.ntl.com) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:23] lol [15:23] i used to be able to run this game [15:23] but now there have been many problems [15:24] first there was "cannot create 3d3 device" but i fixed that, now its the white squares [15:24] * IceGuest_7_ (IceChat7@privatehost-C1A93349.swan.cable.ntl.com) has left #bleepingcomputer [15:24] * IceGuest_7 (IceChat7@privatehost-C1A93349.swan.cable.ntl.com) has left #bleepingcomputer [15:24] ok, here's the gist of your dilemma... basically, it kinda sounds like you're either running out of video memory or your internet might be the issue... usually this would explain the other characters not showing up... [15:25] how do i know [15:25] as far as other bits on your screen such as your chat, that shouldn't also be white... i think that's what it is essentially, your video card.. [15:25] if im running out of [15:25] how much system ram do you have? [15:25] memory.. [15:25] 512mb i think [15:26] and my computer heats up alot [15:26] and usually shuts it self off when the fan is real loud [15:26] i would try to upgrade to atleast 1gb... basically with those chipsets what happens is they share the system memory with the integrated video memory... [15:26] how much would that cost? [15:27] not much... memory in the 1gb sizes is like $30-$40 per stick... [15:27] holy [15:27] i thought that was alot more.. [15:28] for about 50-60 you can probably pick up a 2gb kit... but i'm thinking yours uses ddr... so i don't know if it would be readily available where you are... [15:28] do you have a circuit city/best buy near you? [15:28] yea its ddr [15:28] yes i have both near me [15:29] well, it's a lil more than i thought... but still, not bad... 1gb $64.99 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6852499&st=ddr&lp=5&type=product&cp=1&id=1093468581193 [15:29] well if i buy the stick [15:29] where do i insert it? [15:30] (srry im only 13, age is not an exuscse but for me it is =)) [15:30] oh, no worries... we were all there once... [15:31] so do i insert it where the memory stick is or wha [15:31] there are usually two sockets on your motherboard where the memory slides into... [15:31] so i have to open up my computer? [15:32] depending on whethere you have one 512mb stick or two 256mb sticks, you'll either just slide it in next to the stick already there giving you 1.5gb ram or 1.25gb... either way, you'll be way better off than you are now... [15:32] yep... [15:32] crap... [15:32] which brings me to my other point... [15:32] you need to, in all likelihood, clean the inside of your computer for dust... this is a bit of a tricky thing for someone new to this... [15:33] well [15:33] you basically can't touch anything in the computer without first touching the power supply to discharge any static electricity... [15:33] i've tried opening my computer before [15:33] and i cant really get it open all the way [15:33] its a snap on [15:33] what model is it? dell? [15:33] but some parts are very hard to take off, and im scared to break it [15:33] sony [15:33] vaio? [15:33] yea [15:33] sry [15:34] its this [15:34] http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41W0FQ71B5L._AA280_.jpg [15:34] but with a flat screen [15:35] ohhz... nice... [15:35] not really [15:35] cuz its crap [15:35] well, it's aesthetically pleasing :) [15:35] lol [15:35] so like right now [15:35] i have half of it open [15:35] (cuz i cant shut it) lol [15:36] that's also not good... :) [15:37] to have proper air flow in a case it needs to be closed... [15:37] that might also be adding to the overheating... though i think it's just your fans are covered in dust... [15:37] well [15:38] i was thinking if i opened it [15:38] the heat would escape [15:38] it would but the side of the case would have to be completely off... [15:38] yea i've only got the bottom part off [15:38] also 1 thing [15:38] do they charge for doing it [15:38] like, if best buy puts in the stick for mw [15:38] me* [15:39] this is bad for two things... anything can get in and your components which are rather delicate are exposed... on ball or shoe and goodbye computer... [15:40] you know what... i wouldn't suggest it... their "Geek Squad"... it's essentially a rip off... they will do it for you, if you ask them to... but yeah, they'll charge you... [15:40] my buddy had a memory upgrade done to his laptop, charged him like $35 just to unscrew a thing under the notebook and pop in the memory... [15:40] but the thing is i cant open it lol [15:40] and if i do, and it breaks then im screwed [15:41] but if they open it and it breaks... i might have something gooing [15:41] do you have any geek friends you know who can look at it for you? [15:42] nope, but hey dude, that thing you showed me [15:42] is 135 dollars [15:42] * Phil (phil@wyldryde.org) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:42] * w00t sets mode +o Phil for #bleepingcomputer [15:42] there's one for $64.99 ... kingston memory... ddr [15:42] it's on sale... [15:42] for 1gb? [15:43] yep [15:43] * needTOS (needTOS@privatehost-D87370FB.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:43] * w00t sets mode +o needTOS for #bleepingcomputer [15:43] the issue is, i was afraid of that, it's ddr which is older and therefore harder to find... ddr2 is so mass produced that it's being sold for almost nothing compared to how expensive it was before... [15:43] * Andrew_ (Andrew_@privatehost-91233858.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:43] * Andrew_ (Andrew_@privatehost-91233858.dyn.optonline.net) Quit ( Quit: Andrew_ ) [15:43] you can get 4gb (2x 2gb sticks) for $80 [15:44] * Andrew35 (Andrew@privatehost-91233858.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bleepingcomputer [15:44] well my friends dad knows a thing about computers [15:44] i have a question about harddrive [15:44] it's sick... i paid $100 plus for 128mb of ram a few years back... [15:44] a harddrive* [15:44] sure andrew... what's up... [15:44] * Rawe (popekiller@privatehost-62AE51A4.dhcp.inet.fi) Quit ( Quit: Rawe ) [15:44] (P)PheNoMeNaL(L) - i'd ask your friend if he can ask his dad to take a look at it... [15:44] okay, i have a 160gb hdd. It clicks when it trys to start. So i opened it up....its the little arm that reads the HDD disk. Is there anyway to fix it? [15:44] alright, thanks night [15:45] i'd only recommend geek squad or the like as a last resort [15:45] you opened the hdd? [15:45] yes. [15:45] you took the cover off of the hdd... you can see the platters? [15:45] Correct. [15:45] why would you do that? [15:46] you killed it... [15:46] How so? Ive run a hdd with the cover off? [15:46] you can't do that... it's incredibly bad for the discs and the lil hand that reads it... [15:46] any lil spec of dust gets on the disk it'll ruin it... [15:46] it's not supposed to ever be run open... [15:46] i only did that, to see if the clicking was something stuck. IM pretty sure the hdd was screwed anyway? [15:47] oh well, it'll make a nice display piece :) i did it to an old 160gb drive i have... it's so purdy inside... [15:47] lol [15:47] lol so clicking=death when it comes to hdds right? [15:47] * needTOS has a HDD what has a clear cover :D [15:47] It's the click of death Andrew35 [15:47] depends.. some HDDs are just loud [15:48] nahh this is a broken kind of click, not a running. [15:48] but yeah, for the most part, any kind of clicking is always a bad thing... [15:48] so why would you mess with it as long as the computer was running? [15:48] it usually means it's about to die... [15:48] so u might as well use the last few minutes of what its worth [15:48] =D [15:48] someoen gave me the hdd and said it was dropped and to try. So i put it in my comp and vista read it as my slave. And then after restarting my computer, it wouldnt read it and thats when the clicking started. [15:48] It was an extra hdd phenomenal. [15:48] it was dropped. [15:49] according to the person who gave it to me. [15:49] andrew... yep, it's broken... why don't they ever give you something that's not broken? y'know... [15:49] IT was originally in an external HDD setup. I opened the EXteral HDD to get out the IDE hdd inside. [15:49] i have a box full of old harddrives... [15:49] do you guys work for microsoft or something [15:49] haha i have two now. and a bunch that are to small to run anything other than like windows 100bc! [15:49] pfft... no... [15:50] hahahaha [15:50] lol 100bc [15:50] i don't think they'd hire me... i doubt i'd make it past their personality test... i have a habit for telling the truth... [15:50] no lol [15:50] oh does anyone here know a thing or two abou OSX86 while im here. [15:50] which is leopard for the PC. [15:50] yep andrew... it's essentially illegal [15:50] dun dun dunn [15:50] there are ways and there are ways.. but none of them are legal... [15:50] Yes, it is illegal when not ran on Mac Hardware. Which is what OSX was designed for. [15:51] Well, i tried to install it. And it installs. But then the HDD wont boot up. I just get a flashing - [15:51] And we do not discuss illegal topics here on this channel or wyldryde. [15:51] okay fine ill rephrase. [15:51] rofl... [15:51] ok, let's see you make it not sound like we're helping you w/ something illegal... [15:51] No you wont, you'll either quit talking about it, or you'll get banned. Your choice. [15:52] u could use OSX for another word, then no1 would know [15:52] like, Monkeyz [15:52] If i were to install an OS, on a hard drive. And when it went to boot. I got a flashing -...Even when i changed the boot flag to YES via CPM is there any thing else i can try. [15:52] nothing illegal/able to be banned about that question! [15:52] nope PheNoMeNaL - that's not gonna happen... OS X always installs on Mac hardware... flawlessly... [15:52] i've never heard of someone having issues upgrading or installing it... [15:52] is there anything else i can try? [15:53] It is illegal when I know that you'll be using it to run OSX on non Mac x86 hardware. So I must say, good bye I warned you. [15:53] * needTOS sets mode +b *!*@privatehost-91233858.dyn.optonline.net for #bleepingcomputer [15:53] * Andrew35 was kicked by needTOS (needTOS@privatehost-D87370FB.neo.res.rr.com) Reason (needTOS) [15:53] if sum1 came in here, once with the name of monkeys, and then left and cam ein with another name, would you know its them? [15:53] Yes [15:53] through their IP? [15:53] yes [15:53] so technically.. [15:53] they can't mask their ip PheNoMeNaL ... and if they try to get around it... it'll go really bad for them... [15:54] if they had any open ports [15:54] you could hack them? [15:54] Sorry PheNoMeNaL again we do not talk about illegal stuff, or hacking, must I ban you too? [15:54] noooooooooooooo [15:54] sorry PheNoMeNaL - this just isn't the network for that type of chatter... :\ [15:55] i want to learn how to do good stuff with computers [15:55] but seems so hard [15:55] start with the basics... [15:55] learn the components [15:55] their functions [15:55] configurations [15:55] i can do all this, by just having a computer in front of me? [15:55] if you can read you can do anything [15:56] you obviously can so... [15:56] that is how I learned PheNoMeNaL [15:56] ªPheNoMeNaLª - just go to www.google.com and type in anything you can think of about computers [15:56] i want to like... learn about IP's and stuff, to take over peoples computer (not to do bad stuff but it would be cool to mess around with a friend) [15:56] and just start reading [15:57] ugh.... [15:57] like theres this game i play, and this guy got my IP, he was like [15:57] "i can open your tray" [15:57] like i want 2 learn like that stuff [15:57] ¦PheNoMeNaL¦ - that would make you a scriptkiddy... that's not cool... [15:57] * needTOS sets mode +b *!*@privatehost-B83C16DA.tu.ok.cox.net for #bleepingcomputer [15:57] * PheNoMeNaL was kicked by needTOS (needTOS@privatehost-D87370FB.neo.res.rr.com) Reason (needTOS) [15:57] kids... [15:57] why must people go against the rules even after being warned... [15:57] What do you mean by kids? lol [15:58] he's 13