(11:18:03 AM) FunkyPenguin: cb400f: +1 :) (11:18:03 AM) captain_magnus: Hehe... (11:18:38 AM) captain_magnus: rodrigo: I was just discussing the compiz frontend thing with cb400f... (11:19:05 AM) rodrigo: ok, what did you say about it? (11:19:27 AM) captain_magnus: rodrigo: Just trying to figure out if you and cyberorg need to come up with a YaST module for your work or if we can do with a GNOME cc-module (11:19:38 AM) cb400f: http://pastebin.ca/945974 (11:20:03 AM) rodrigo: cb400f: so, what do KDE uses for enabling/disabling XGL ? (11:20:18 AM) cb400f: gnome-xgl-switch :-) (11:20:20 AM) rodrigo: ok /me reads (11:20:52 AM) cb400f: but as we discussed it seems aiglx/nvidia-glx will be enabled by default in 11.0 3D KMPs (11:21:12 AM) rodrigo: yes (11:21:18 AM) cb400f: if that is correct and works properly, we only have to worry about the window manager part (11:21:36 AM) rodrigo: and gnome-xgl-settings now is just a frontend to gnome-xgl-switch and ccsm (11:21:41 AM) cb400f: kwin effects can be easily turned on in kde4 in systemsettings (formerly kcontrol) (11:23:03 AM) cb400f: but it's likely that quite a lot of people would want compiz fusion in kde anyway because it's more crazy (11:23:59 AM) rodrigo: yeah (11:24:10 AM) rodrigo: kwin effects work on all graphic cards? (11:24:41 AM) cb400f: just needs some form of composite extension (xgl, aiglx, nvidia-glx) (11:25:08 AM) cb400f: basically if compiz works, kwin effects work (11:25:19 AM) cb400f: if compiz doesn't work, kwin effects won't work either (11:25:58 AM) cb400f: in theory I guess all that is need to use compiz in kde is to change the KDEWM variable (11:25:58 AM) rodrigo: ok (11:26:15 AM) cb400f: am planning to test this a little bit when a3 comes out (11:26:29 AM) cb400f: .. and whine to kde team if it won't work as expected (11:26:31 AM) rodrigo: I guess we want it then in yast (11:26:47 AM) rodrigo: the other option being a gnome-only thing (11:26:52 AM) cb400f: maybe, maybe not (11:27:02 AM) rodrigo: but g-xgl-settings is very ugly, so needs to go away (11:27:24 AM) cb400f: same with opensuse-xgl-settings :-) http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/opensuse-xgl-settings?content=51201 (11:27:54 AM) cb400f: assuming the composite extensions work out of the box, all this is userspace (11:28:13 AM) cb400f: maybe this is an occasion to take advantage of the splitting of yast ui libs (11:28:51 AM) cb400f: make some little user application outside of yast.. but utilising the yast ui lib to have qt and gtk ui (11:36:56 AM) rodrigo: hmm, maybe