[00:53] I already laid out the guidelines of the position. [00:54] ok [00:54] ill be just sales [00:54] hence i said "think about the position while I go smoke a cigarette" [00:54] u just did [00:54] as "just sales" [00:54] ill "just" make 15% [00:54] Yes, and "just" sales has its requirements. Which is more than a timer on mIRC [00:55] i dont do grants / investments / etc [00:55] Ok [00:55] lol [00:55] money for advertisements is not suppose to come outta my own pocket [00:55] um [00:55] you can deduct the $40 from the 250-300 of service you got for free. [00:55] theres suppose to be money set aside [00:55] thats fine [00:55] and no one asked you to pay for the ad. [00:55] but you suppose to set aside money for me to advertise with [00:55] See, I'm glad we had this conversation. [00:55] im not [00:55] Come to find out, you aren't the first person I thought you were [00:56] Davis. [00:56] Honestly [00:56] lmao [00:56] what? [00:56] This is not a major corporation, theres not a fucking marketing budget yet.. money set aside for you to run off and buy ad space with n shit. [00:56] exactly my point [00:56] I thought you have been there for the development and launch of a company? [00:56] which means as sales there is very little to no incentive [00:56] yes [00:56] i see [00:56] well [00:56] i have been [00:57] and there are partnerships made [00:57] and ive been screwed enough times [00:57] Well, apparently you dont get exactly where we are at.. what we need and where we are going. [00:57] to not "put it off until later" [00:57] right now [00:57] your at an idea [00:57] and thats about it [00:57] its called [00:57] development [00:57] no [00:57] yes [00:57] your not at deveolopement right now [00:57] your at fundraising [00:58] developement takes money [00:58] Alright, here [00:58] if this will make you happy [00:58] idea > partner ships > fundraising > profitmaking [00:58] Yes, davis. You are 100% right, you own every thing [00:58] Yeah, see [00:58] 1,8 idea > partner ships > fundraising > [00:58] thats development [00:58] 1,8> profitmaking [00:58] thats post-launch [00:58] but [00:58] yes [00:59] post launch [00:59] ok? [00:59] we are pre-launch.. aka development [00:59] you just said... were not in development [00:59] so... [00:59] what im asking for is not even close to unreasonable [00:59] Ok, well unfortunately its based upon the companies opinion. [00:59] yes [00:59] And, I'm not agreeing to ANYTHING based off of you telling me you can do something [00:59] which is you and your wife [01:00] So, until you can produce results [01:00] give me incentive to do so [01:00] and currently you have nothing to offer [01:00] Dont tell me I have to sign 25-30% of profits over to you lmao [01:00] Alright, if you can say we dont have anything to sell... you aren't even slightly exp. in sales. And this conversation is pointless. [01:00] beyond pointless. [01:01] custom webdesign, team/business templates, custom forums skins, web development/coding, business/team logo design, graphic art/graphics packages, hosting/ftp space, movie production/editing, computer enhancement services for gamers (offered by our sister company), cs 1.6 - cs:s - cz - cod4 private and public servers, voice comm. servers, custom mirc bot coding/hosting, gaming lessons/coaching/strat packages [01:01] ^^ [01:01] and were just an idea! [01:01] so [01:01] it looks like, all you have to offer is an opinion and restrictions. [01:01] which, im married so I can get an opinion at any given time for free [01:01] call it whatd youd like [01:01] are you high? or drunk? [01:01] lol [01:02] havent we had this conversation? [01:02] Ok, I agree 100% with everything you are saying [01:02] you are totally right. [01:02] ive never done drugs and never been drunk [01:02] and I am rediculously ignorant, for not signging a contracxt that guarantees you 25-30% of company profit [01:02] that being said [01:03] I have work out the ass to do, and I need to get to it now that we've reached an agreement. [01:03] 25% with stipulations [01:03] ... [01:03] thats 1/4 [01:03] I should post this conversation publically [01:03] i could be asking for 1/2 or 1/3 [01:03] do it [01:03] idc [01:03] maybe you will take the entire communities word, instead of mine [01:03] You could ask for 100% if you wanted [01:03] wish in one hand, shit in the other... tell me which one fills up faster. [01:04] lol [01:04] ok [01:04] do it how you would like [01:04] i have exp / resources [01:05] you still are left with little more then an idea [01:05] You come to me, wanting a sponsorship for your CS Team... and you end up in sales. Then, within 48 hours you are the CMO - head of marketing and sales, and yet to sell one thing. BUT, you talk about all of your experience and resources, and your ability to sell. And, for you to work for us, you want 1/4 of all company profits - guaranteed in writing.. even 5-10 years down the line [01:05] Oh, and your experience and resources... is a library... which they offer publically in my town.. or... internet explorer has everything the library has at my finger tips [01:05] no [01:06] resources as in people [01:06] and, business information that pertains to a corporation or major business... which has been around 2 decades. [01:06] the book i got i kno the autho [01:06] You know music people... [01:06] the book i got i kno the author [01:06] i said my mother in law would invest 5k... [01:06] I know a woman who wrote a book on money management, that doesn't mean I can go offering financial advice to people. [01:06] see the key? [01:06] well my fiance is actually worth about 4.5 million [01:06] i dont need this [01:06] [01:06] i said my mother in law would invest 5k... [01:07] i was just gunna get money from my fiance to start up this little side thing with u guys and see where it went [01:07] you wont get far in life, wanting 1/4 of a companies profits before you can even produce one result lol [01:07] Yes, all things you've said. [01:07] you dont have anything as far as incentive goes [01:07] you cant hire me [01:07] because you cant pay me [01:07] and your trying to pay me incorrectly [01:08] i see, its a sales job - which 99% of which are commission but you knew that... you are a business guru. [01:08] because your lost in how business runs [01:08] YOU COME TO ME, WANTING 1/4 OF COMPANY PROFITS and LABELED AS A CO-FOUNDER BEFORE YOU EVEN MAKE ONE SALE - AND YOU CAME TO ME ABOUT A SPONSORSHIP ORIGINALLY, FOR A WEBSITE, BUT YET YOUR FAMILY IS SO DAMN RICH YOU CAN INVEST 5K INSTANTLY INTO "THIS LITTLE SIDE THING" [01:08] SO [01:09] That being said [01:09] End of business talk, you are too smart on the topic for me. (lol) [01:09] Sales [01:09] You have a trial period, if you dont meet quota you will be terminated. [01:09] If we want your "advice" on business [01:09] and super secret resources a the library [01:09] we will definately ask [01:09] for sure [01:09] lol [01:09] lemme make it easier for you [01:09] Other than that, do you need any tips on advertising? or do you have that on lock down as well? [01:09] No [01:10] Dont [01:10] theres nothing you can make easier for me. [01:10] you have already proved to be A TYPICAL [01:10] now [01:10] good luck man [01:10] Go make sales or leave [01:10] Good day. [01:12] SOrry to make you the butt end of a joke, but one of the 3 keys we offer is entertainment. We have a reputation to build.