Conversation with VigilantePunishment on 4/6/2008 2:22:52 AM:
(2:22:52 AM) VigilantePunishment: Why impersonate us?
(2:22:52 AM) VigilantePunishment: Are we such a threat?
(2:22:54 AM) VigilantePunishment: Are you trying to remove our credibility?
(2:22:59 AM) me: hi punk
(2:23:34 AM) VigilantePunishment: Whatever floats your boat.
(2:23:34 AM) me: how's things
(2:24:07 AM) VigilantePunishment: Let's cut to the chase.
(2:24:14 AM) VigilantePunishment: Why?
(2:24:15 AM) me: i'm trying to make conversation and you're just being mean
(2:24:29 AM) me: why what
(2:25:36 AM) VigilantePunishment: Why bother impersonating?
(2:25:55 AM) me: because
(2:25:58 AM) me: you're a joke?
(2:26:06 AM) me: and not a very funny joke
(2:26:10 AM) me: so we're trying to make you funny
(2:26:16 AM) me: you should thank us
(2:26:23 AM) me: a comedian without funny is
(2:26:24 AM) me: well
(2:26:28 AM) me: not a very good comedian!
(2:26:53 AM) me: are you just angrily stomping around your room trying to think of things to say
(2:26:59 AM) me: then typing them in
(2:27:03 AM) me: then thinking over it, then deleting it
(2:27:06 AM) me: then stomping some more
(2:27:17 AM) VigilantePunishment: No.
(2:27:21 AM) me: you punch a pillow with my name written on it
(2:27:27 AM) me: "damn you, teloch! damn you!"
(2:27:33 AM) me: "you've ruined everything..."
(2:27:37 AM) me: a single tear trickles down your cheek
(2:27:47 AM) me: and lands on the shag carpet
(2:27:57 AM) me: you sit down on your bed and pet your cat
(2:27:59 AM) VigilantePunishment: You must be in love with yourself.
(2:28:02 AM) me: i am
(2:28:03 AM) me: i really am
(2:28:06 AM) me: i love myself i am the coolest person ever
(2:28:07 AM) VigilantePunishment: Good.
(2:29:12 AM) me: so
(2:29:16 AM) me: let me ask you a queston, punk
(2:29:21 AM) me: can you shed light on this "radio mute" character
(2:29:40 AM) VigilantePunishment: Who is Radio Mute?
(2:29:49 AM) me: that's what i'd like to know
(2:30:02 AM) me: some kid trolling around in the "ask upper-echelon members" threads
(2:30:11 AM) me: obviously a spongen drone but we're unsure of who, exactly
(2:30:16 AM) me: we all assume it's you, but
(2:30:22 AM) me: we'd like to think that you're not THAT desperate
(2:30:48 AM) VigilantePunishment: Once again, teloch. If you want Punk's email, we can hand it over to you.
(2:31:02 AM) VigilantePunishment: And we have no idea who is Radio Mute.
(2:31:06 AM) me: oh well
(2:31:20 AM) me: i guess the visions speak true
(2:31:28 AM) me: you ARE the heroes from my dreams
(2:32:00 AM) me: but uh
(2:32:11 AM) me: yeah how's stuff on the vigilante punishment front
(2:32:13 AM) me: still fighting the good fight?
(2:32:23 AM) me: i haven't seen much of you guys around
(2:34:26 AM) VigilantePunishment: Why are you curious to know? Why are you interested in VigilantePunishment?
(2:34:39 AM) me: curiosity
(2:34:47 AM) me: i merely wish to know where we stand
(2:34:58 AM) me: how long we have to truly protect ourselves
(2:35:04 AM) me: and build up our walls against the inevitable siege
(2:35:21 AM) me: the northern kingdoms haven't sent word in nearly a fortnight
(2:35:48 AM) me: and the dwarves of the cloudraven mountains have been distressingly quiet
(2:36:12 AM) me: the whispers of the great southern host grow louder with each passing day
(2:39:15 AM) VigilantePunishment: Teloch. Since you're an administrator, you could tell this to the others.
(2:39:22 AM) me: oh, i will
(2:39:34 AM) me: don't you worry, ma'am
(2:40:07 AM) me: btw great work on the first
(2:40:28 AM) VigilantePunishment: That wasn't us and you know it.
(2:40:31 AM) me: it took us a while to recover but
(2:40:34 AM) me: god that was good planning
(2:40:35 AM) VigilantePunishment: We are not amused.
(2:40:40 AM) me: we are, though
(2:40:41 AM) me: :3
(2:40:47 AM) me: -pinches cheeks-
(2:41:20 AM) VigilantePunishment: -pinches cheeks-
(2:41:21 AM) VigilantePunishment: There's no point at us bitching at you when you're right in front of us.
(2:41:32 AM) me: who's bitching?
(2:41:34 AM) me: i don't see bitching
(2:41:45 AM) me: i see friendly conversation and a couple of questions i've yet to get real answers to
(2:41:46 AM) VigilantePunishment: We were... or were going to.
(2:41:58 AM) me: don't bitch, it's not worth it
(2:42:29 AM) VigilantePunishment: Yeah, it's not.
(2:42:48 AM) me: so are you dropping the plural thing yet
(2:42:57 AM) me: let's just talk
(2:42:58 AM) me: you and me
(2:43:00 AM) me: mano y mano
(2:43:06 AM) me: y hate a gipsy
(2:43:44 AM) VigilantePunishment: What the hell was that?
(2:43:55 AM) VigilantePunishment: Never mind.
(2:47:14 AM) vigilantepunishment@live.com is now known as VigilantePunishment. 
(2:47:22 AM) me: sorry about that, my internet went kaput
(2:47:32 AM) me: did i miss anything of importance?
(2:47:34 AM) VigilantePunishment: No problem.
(2:47:51 AM) VigilantePunishment: VigilantePunishment: Okay teloch. The following things we're going to ask of you may not be a request or a demand from the general public.
(2:48:04 AM) me: shoot
(2:49:12 AM) VigilantePunishment: You may or may not be aware of this but RMXP.org has been talked about for the past few months.
(2:49:42 AM) me: oh i'm quite aware people talk about rmxp.org
(2:49:46 AM) me: people talk about lots of things
(2:49:49 AM) me: people talk about bowling!
(2:50:02 AM) me: or do you mean people have been talking bad about us
(2:50:11 AM) me: because we wholeheartedly agree with most of what they're saying
(2:50:51 AM) VigilantePunishment: What are they saying?
(2:51:00 AM) me: that .org sucks?
(2:51:23 AM) me: that the community is full of faggots who use *HUGGLES* and japfag emotes
(2:51:30 AM) me: and kids who make final fantasy fangames
(2:51:41 AM) me: and don't put any thought into quality or basic effort
(2:53:19 AM) VigilantePunishment: There has to be something else besides that.
(2:53:52 AM) me: well
(2:53:56 AM) me: obviously you know more than i do
(2:54:00 AM) me: so don't hesitate to tell me
(2:54:34 AM) me: are you offering to silence these cries of rebellion?
(2:55:01 AM) VigilantePunishment: We are.
(2:55:11 AM) me: :3
(2:55:17 AM) VigilantePunishment: No point crying it out when we could just talk to you.
(2:56:11 AM) me: well
(2:56:11 AM) VigilantePunishment: And you do not have to worry about this conversation being used as a weapon of some sort if that's what you're thinking.
(2:56:13 AM) me: talk, my dear
(2:56:18 AM) me: no not at all
(2:56:20 AM) me: it couldn't be
(2:56:26 AM) me: i'm not saying anything i'd regret
(2:58:05 AM) me: i don't regret
(2:58:12 AM) me: i don't wish for save points
(2:58:32 AM) me: what fun is life without spontaneous decisions?
(3:00:18 AM) VigilantePunishment: Cat got my tongue.
(3:00:24 AM) me: so it seems
(3:02:47 AM) me: -switches eyepatch to the other eye-
(3:02:50 AM) me: -tips wide-brimmed hat-
(3:04:26 AM) VigilantePunishment: For one, let's talk about how some of the RMXP.org staffers are showing up on certain smaller communities and IRC rooms. We aren't sure if you are doing this to have fun or to see what you can get out of a conversation in them. Some of us are leaning towards the latter. It makes some users uncomfortable. We're not suggesting you guys should leave or anything like that but could you assure them you're not in the forums or rooms because of that reason?
(3:04:55 AM) me: :x?
(3:04:59 AM) me: are you talking about like #rrr?
(3:05:24 AM) VigilantePunishment: Rooms in general, really.
(3:05:56 AM) me: so pretty much you're telling us not to join other channels
(3:05:58 AM) me: fair enough
(3:06:04 AM) me: does this include #sponge?
(3:06:06 AM) me: i rather like #sponge
(3:06:08 AM) me: it's a nice place
(3:07:45 AM) VigilantePunishment: No, we're not saying "don't join these rooms." But please assure them you're not here to do something wrong to whatever room of a website you've joined.
(3:08:09 AM) me: what channels and sites, though
(3:08:15 AM) me: none of us really go or care about anywhere
(3:08:21 AM) me: despain and myself go to gw
(3:08:38 AM) me: we don't really
(3:08:40 AM) me: go anywhere else
(3:09:01 AM) me: despain posted on sponge to defend himself against ccoa's ever-expanding circlejerk
(3:09:02 AM) VigilantePunishment: #rrr of RPG RPG Revolution and #sponge of Spontaneous Generation.
(3:09:14 AM) me: #rrr is a joke we go there for kav and kav alone
(3:09:20 AM) me: #sponge is a cute channel i like idling there
(3:10:29 AM) VigilantePunishment: Despain may not be directly involved with whatever happened to ccoa but he was a part of it.
(3:10:35 AM) me: not really
(3:10:38 AM) me: that was disso
(3:10:44 AM) me: that was entirely disso
(3:10:47 AM) me: ev just lol'd about it
(3:11:15 AM) me: ccoa likes to blow things out of proportion
(3:11:18 AM) me: and blame ev for everything
(3:11:42 AM) me: i think there's some sexual tension between them, myeslf
(3:11:45 AM) me: myself, even!
(3:12:26 AM) VigilantePunishment: We know it was dissonance. But we've seen some of that hate expressed towards ccoa. And we've seen a #rmxp topic which said "Fuck Rye."
(3:12:26 AM) VigilantePunishment: What?
(3:12:48 AM) me: yeah lots of hate is expressed towards ccoa by proxy
(3:12:52 AM) me: dissonance hates rye, though
(3:13:00 AM) me: because rye is a stuck-up talentless cunt
(3:13:32 AM) me: who flaunts a MISAO if someone tries to critique her writing
(3:13:43 AM) me: I GOT A MISAO IM A DAMN GOOD WRITER
(3:14:22 AM) VigilantePunishment: Is there any proof of Rye flaunting a misao? Some of us recall Rye not wanting it.
(3:14:35 AM) me: the proof is irrelevant
(3:14:39 AM) me: because i have no opinion of her
(3:14:44 AM) me: or of the matter in general
(3:14:54 AM) me: you'd have to go to dissonance for that
(3:15:25 AM) VigilantePunishment: Ok.
(3:15:48 AM) me: anything else?
(3:19:16 AM) VigilantePunishment: Be it coincidence or not but we noticed you would sometimes come into #sponge whenever someone, particularly someone who is on very good talking terms with you and rmxp.org talk about a drama of some sort.
(3:19:48 AM) VigilantePunishment: It's not like you do it all the time.
(3:19:53 AM) me: you can call it more than a coincidence i suppose
(3:20:01 AM) me: often when i open irc when i first get online
(3:20:06 AM) me: i close all my non-bnc channels
(3:20:22 AM) me: because my internet is terrible and i often ping out and would rather not annoy those channels with constant pinging out
(3:20:28 AM) me: however often someone will mention a channel
(3:20:33 AM) me: or a particular person
(3:20:39 AM) me: and i will be reminded to connect there
(3:21:00 AM) me: it's less to WATCH THE EXCITEMENT UNFOLD because i rarely actually pay much attention in there unless my highlighter is set off
(3:22:19 AM) VigilantePunishment: That makes sense.
(3:22:43 AM) me: er
(3:22:44 AM) VigilantePunishment: But wait, what things remind you to join the other channels?
(3:22:44 AM) me: sorry about that
(3:22:49 AM) me: um
(3:22:51 AM) me: people mentioning names
(3:22:57 AM) me: like if someone mentions
(3:22:57 AM) me: idk
(3:22:59 AM) me: SHADE
(3:23:01 AM) me: or rye
(3:23:03 AM) me: or trickster
(3:23:04 AM) me: in #rmxp
(3:23:24 AM) me: it clicks with me "hey, they go to #sponge and i'm closed the chatspike tab lemme connect"
(3:24:23 AM) VigilantePunishment: That makes sense.
(3:24:57 AM) VigilantePunishment: Okay, teloch. Second thing we'd like to talk to you about.
(3:26:03 AM) VigilantePunishment: It's how some of the staff seems to embarrass certain members.
(3:26:12 AM) me: mm?
(3:29:23 AM) VigilantePunishment: Maybe some of the members deserve it for being total idiots but the things that are done to a member are sometimes uncalled for.
(3:29:57 AM) me: may i ask if there is a reason for the delays in your typing?
(3:30:41 AM) me: because right now i'm torn between thinking you're punk or ccoa
(3:30:45 AM) me: and i highly doubt you're ccoa
(3:30:50 AM) me: but at the same time
(3:30:55 AM) me: i'd rather you not be punk
(3:30:58 AM) me: because that'd just be sad
(3:31:09 AM) me: you're not like
(3:31:11 AM) me: mac, are you?
(3:31:54 AM) VigilantePunishment: Mac is probably sleeping at this time.
(3:32:00 AM) me: idk
(3:32:08 AM) me: it'd be ~8:30am where he is
(3:32:32 AM) me: are you trickster, maybe?
(3:32:39 AM) me: please don't be trickster i like trickster
(3:33:43 AM) VigilantePunishment: No.
(3:34:00 AM) me: can you at least tell me who you are?
(3:34:01 AM) me: give me
(3:34:02 AM) me: some handle
(3:34:05 AM) me: something tangible to grasp
(3:34:35 AM) me: this VIGILANTE PUNISHMENT thing could be a collective yes i don';t care but
(3:34:36 AM) me: there is one man
(3:34:37 AM) me: or woman
(3:34:42 AM) me: or robot dog
(3:34:43 AM) me: sitting here
(3:34:46 AM) me: typing to me
(3:34:49 AM) me: and receivnig my replies
(3:34:57 AM) me: and i'd like to know who!
(3:35:53 AM) VigilantePunishment: There is no need to know.
(3:36:12 AM) me: ah well
(3:36:18 AM) me: i didn't expect an answer so quickly
(3:36:20 AM) me: ps
(3:36:23 AM) me: (3:29:23 AM) VigilantePunishment: Maybe some of the members deserve it for being total idiots but the things that are done to a member are sometimes uncalled for.
(3:36:30 AM) me: need i remind you of erk and ccoa's mizzing policy?
(3:36:54 AM) VigilantePunishment: You never told us about our mizzing policy.
(3:37:05 AM) me: our
(3:37:10 AM) me: i never felt a need to
(3:37:11 AM) VigilantePunishment: About the mizzing policy.*
(3:37:14 AM) me: :3
(3:37:15 AM) me: hi ccoa
(3:37:16 AM) me: what's up
(3:37:17 AM) me: how's chris
(3:37:24 AM) VigilantePunishment: This isn't ccoa.
(3:37:28 AM) me: erk?
(3:38:10 AM) me: waaaaait no
(3:38:11 AM) VigilantePunishment: No this isn't Erk. It's not anyone of the Pre-TREG RMXP.org staff.
(3:38:13 AM) me: that typo correction
(3:38:19 AM) me: that's a trademark of punk
(3:38:33 AM) me: you betrayed yourself
(3:38:34 AM) VigilantePunishment: Everyone corrects their typos, no?
(3:38:35 AM) me: not in the word
(3:38:38 AM) me: but in the manner of correction
(3:38:51 AM) me: punk is the only sponge who repeats a chunk of a sentence to correct it
(3:39:05 AM) me: so i have a name
(3:39:06 AM) me: and a face
(3:39:07 AM) me: hey, punk
(3:39:09 AM) me: let's continue
(3:40:26 AM) me: you sigh
(3:40:32 AM) me: you punch the pillow marked with my name
(3:40:36 AM) me: "damn you, teloch!"
(3:40:39 AM) me: foiled again!
(3:40:43 AM) VigilantePunishment: No?
(3:40:47 AM) me: quite
(3:40:51 AM) VigilantePunishment: Teloch, people correct their typos.
(3:40:57 AM) VigilantePunishment: It is common.
(3:40:57 AM) me: not like that
(3:41:09 AM) me: i have spoken to all of the songes
(3:41:14 AM) VigilantePunishment: Some do.
(3:41:18 AM) me: i know how they correct their typos
(3:41:26 AM) me: you are the only one dramatic enough to fully repeat a sentence
(3:43:02 AM) me: but regardless
(3:43:16 AM) me: let's conitnue
(3:43:19 AM) me: the mizzing pollicy
(3:43:22 AM) me: you know about it, yes?
(3:43:26 AM) VigilantePunishment: We corrected a chunk because we didn't want the words to get taken out of context. And how were you supposed to know what we were correcting if we only corrected one word?
(3:43:59 AM) me: you're getting defensive, sweetie
(3:44:02 AM) me: relax
(3:44:04 AM) me: i'm not going to bite
(3:44:55 AM) VigilantePunishment: You're getting offensive.
(3:45:04 AM) me: by calling you punk?

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(3:46:17 AM) me: boffffffff
(3:46:19 AM) me: lost my momentum
(3:46:20 AM) me: oh well
(3:46:22 AM) me: let's continue
(3:46:52 AM) VigilantePunishment: No, by over-analyzing one typo correction.
(3:47:07 AM) me: over-analyzing?
(3:47:14 AM) me: whatever, dear
(3:47:16 AM) me: we're past the typo
(3:47:21 AM) me: we're past your identity (punk)
(3:47:35 AM) me: get back to what you were saying so i can go to sleep i am rather tired
(3:47:36 AM) VigilantePunishment: You're concluding Punk is behind us because of a typo correction.
(3:47:45 AM) me: um
(3:47:51 AM) me: actually that's not really the case
(3:47:54 AM) me: i figured you were punk
(3:48:07 AM) me: punk's the only one desperate enough to
(3:48:10 AM) me: continue this forever
(3:48:14 AM) me: and lame enough to
(3:48:19 AM) me: emulate ANONYMOUS of all things
(3:48:30 AM) me: i just didn't have enough to prove it
(3:48:35 AM) me: your typo correction did that for me
(3:48:36 AM) me: thank you
(3:48:51 AM) VigilantePunishment: Whatever floats your boat.
(3:48:57 AM) me: whatever floats my boat indeed
(3:48:58 AM) VigilantePunishment: If you would like, let's continue onto the mizzing policy.
(3:49:02 AM) me: let's!
(3:49:28 AM) VigilantePunishment: What about it?
(3:49:52 AM) me: (3:29:23 AM) VigilantePunishment: Maybe some of the members deserve it for being total idiots but the things that are done to a member are sometimes uncalled for.
(3:50:03 AM) me: maybe some of the members deserve it for being total idiots, btu the things that are done to them are sometimes uncalled for.
(3:50:10 AM) me: the members were idiots during erk and ccoa's reign
(3:50:24 AM) me: this much is obvious from reading backthreads in ye olde staff forum
(3:50:33 AM) me: the incredible idiots, they mizzed
(3:50:35 AM) me: removed from the site
(3:50:43 AM) me: the ones they couldn't find a reason to ban outside of "you're a fucking idiot"
(3:50:55 AM) me: they also did this to political dissenters, as it were
(3:51:04 AM) me: i myself was mizzed accidentally, though they were aiming for despain
(3:51:33 AM) me: is denying access to the site simply because you don't like someone
(3:51:48 AM) me: in fact better than insulting them in an effort to make them suck less?
(3:53:17 AM) VigilantePunishment: They're both wrong things to do.
(3:53:44 AM) me: then it seems we are both at fault
(3:54:31 AM) me: so
(3:54:33 AM) me: the next thing
(3:54:42 AM) me: are you going to tell me something new and interesting yet
(3:54:49 AM) VigilantePunishment: Your method to better the members wouldn't be so bad if it didn't look excessive.
(3:55:21 AM) me: it only looks excessive if you dig
(3:55:42 AM) me: or if you hold something against us
(3:55:52 AM) me: obviously there is bias in the observation
(3:56:02 AM) me: you are clearly not an impartial mediator
(3:58:33 AM) VigilantePunishment: Another thing you may want to look at is what looks like "mob mentality"
(3:58:54 AM) me: how so
(4:00:08 AM) me: btw what timezone are you in
(4:00:17 AM) me: because it's 4am here and this is really getting kindof old
(4:00:26 AM) me: what with the
(4:00:41 AM) me: rmxp kids trying to tell the most knowledgeable people around how to run an rm* site
(4:01:15 AM) me: i don't mean to sound pretentious or anything it's just that i'm kindof tired and we've gotten nowhere and you're terribly long-winded and annoying
(4:01:42 AM) VigilantePunishment: Western Europe Time.
(4:01:50 AM) me: western europe
(4:01:53 AM) me: haaaaaaa
(4:03:11 AM) VigilantePunishment: It may seem biased but we think members are acting upon what Despain or anyone who is above thinks.
(4:03:33 AM) me: we think otherwise
(4:03:37 AM) me: if they did, the site wouldn't suck
(4:03:47 AM) me: clearly it does
(4:03:51 AM) me: so clearly you are wrong!
(4:05:02 AM) VigilantePunishment: We apologize for keeping you up late.
(4:05:12 AM) me: no it's no trouble
(4:05:15 AM) me: i have nothing else to do
(4:05:22 AM) me: it's just that you could've picked a better time for this probably
(4:05:42 AM) me: we can always continue this another day!
(4:06:16 AM) VigilantePunishment: Yes.
(4:08:47 AM) VigilantePunishment: So let's talk another time.
(4:09:19 AM) me: let's!
(4:09:22 AM) me: it was fun
(4:12:25 AM) VigilantePunishment: You don't have to worry about VP wanting to go against you. It's a change of direction. Here's to hoping we can solve it peacefully.
(4:12:56 AM) VigilantePunishment: Good night.