(04/17/2008 12:00:06 AM) bladez740: maybe YOU can be of some help.
(12:00:25 AM) Icomey: I'm useless though, mostly.
(12:00:35 AM) bladez740: I asked jello for advice, but she was useless
(12:00:50 AM) bladez740: (11:06:47 PM) bladez740: argh
  (11:07:00 PM) ballerineglacee: What's up?
  (11:07:01 PM) bladez740: I need advice.
  (11:07:11 PM) ballerineglacee: Ask away.
  (11:08:03 PM) bladez740: ok, so.
  (11:08:12 PM) bladez740: back story first
  (11:08:24 PM) bladez740: I have a friend
  (11:08:53 PM) bladez740: we've known each other for a while, but haven't really been close until a bit more than a year ago.
  (11:09:04 PM) bladez740: (female friend)
  (11:09:31 PM) bladez740: so, she's sorta been my vent for a while
  (11:10:06 PM) bladez740: so, just recently, she's started getting all depressed, nearly exactly like I've been.
  (11:10:25 PM) bladez740: got dumped, no plan in life, strained relationship with family, etc
  (12:00:57 AM) bladez740: (11:11:00 PM) bladez740: so now I'm sitting here, kinda liking her a lot, but not sure what to do.
  (11:11:43 PM) ballerineglacee: Hmm, that's rough.
  (11:11:58 PM) ballerineglacee: The best thing you can do for her is to be there.
  (11:12:10 PM) bladez740: ok.
  (11:16:11 PM) ballerineglacee: Listening is good.
  (11:16:24 PM) bladez740: Well, I've always been listening
  (11:16:31 PM) ballerineglacee: Good.
  (11:16:48 PM) ballerineglacee: Also, I have to go to bed, it's going to be a hell of a day tomorrow.
(12:03:42 AM) Icomey: Okay...
(12:04:26 AM) Icomey: That's tough...
(12:04:41 AM) ***Icomey ponders.
(12:05:43 AM) Icomey: "liking her a lot" as in possibly more than a friend I think?
(12:05:48 AM) bladez740: yes.
(12:05:53 AM) bladez740: that's the whole point here.
(12:06:00 AM) Icomey: I thought so.
(12:06:22 AM) bladez740: but like...
(12:06:33 AM) bladez740: this is really my last really close friend.
(12:06:44 AM) bladez740: if it gets too awkward, I dunno what I'd do.
(12:06:56 AM) Icomey: Yeah...
(12:07:35 AM) Icomey: I mean, I see a few different scenarios in my head.
(12:07:48 AM) bladez740: (unrelated, but I just saw a mazda commercial that said "easy out, easy in...room for everybody" and totally thought of you)
(12:07:59 AM) Icomey: Fuck you.
(12:08:06 AM) Icomey: >_>
(12:08:52 AM) bladez740: but anyway, I figure I'll ask for your advice and then do the opposite since you fucked me over last time you advised me on something like this.
(12:09:00 AM) bladez740: and I'm sure as hell not asking the D20 again.
(12:10:03 AM) bladez740: >_>
(12:10:58 AM) bladez740: <_<
(12:11:49 AM) bladez740: are you gonna hit enter, or are you just going to leave whatever you have typed sitting there
(12:12:00 AM) bladez740: and make pidgin think you've entered a message?
(12:12:14 AM) bladez740: fuck you.
(12:12:22 AM) bladez740: you started typing and stopped
(12:12:27 AM) bladez740: now you're doing it on purpose.
(12:12:40 AM) Icomey: But, back on subject, Case A: You ask her out, she says no, but wants to remain friends, which might be kinda awkward
Case B: You ask her out, things go well for $time, but get awkward/$bad, and things go downhill
Case C: You ask her out, things go well, and continue going well.

(12:12:48 AM) Icomey: Soryr, juggling things here.
(12:13:05 AM) bladez740: quit juggling you thing and give me some advice.
(12:13:37 AM) Icomey: Okay.
(12:13:40 AM) bladez740: anyway.
(12:13:48 AM) Icomey: Case D: You don't ask her out quite yet
(12:14:01 AM) Icomey: Wait a bit, get a little closer...
(12:14:01 AM) bladez740: the thing is, she's feeling a bit unloved as well
(12:14:04 AM) Icomey: Yeah.
(12:14:06 AM) bladez740: I'm thinking
(12:14:14 AM) bladez740: me saying something could really cheer her up.
(12:14:30 AM) bladez740: but...that's definitely not everything that's bugging her anyway.
(12:14:34 AM) Icomey: If she's feeling unloved, asking her out could show her people do care
(12:14:45 AM) bladez740: well
(12:14:55 AM) bladez740: the other thing, she's not in the same situation I'm in.
(12:15:05 AM) bladez740: she's dated a bunch of guys
(12:15:11 AM) bladez740: who all turned out to be sleazebags
(12:15:21 AM) bladez740: and then recently got dumped twice for other girls.
(12:15:22 AM) Icomey: sleazebags = fail
(12:16:39 AM) Icomey: Well... Hm...
(12:17:02 AM) Icomey: Do you think she would be interested in you?
(12:17:10 AM) bladez740: not sure.
(12:17:30 AM) bladez740: but she's told me I'm basically the last close friend she has as well.
(12:17:56 AM) Icomey: Ah...
(12:19:03 AM) bladez740: hang in
(12:19:21 AM) bladez740: I've tried the whole "subtle hints" thing to see if I can get her to subtly hint something back
(12:19:28 AM) bladez740: s/in/on/
(12:20:02 AM) Icomey: And no luck/you didn't catch them?
(12:20:10 AM) bladez740: well
(12:20:13 AM) bladez740: hang on
(12:20:16 AM) Icomey: Okay.
(12:20:20 AM) ***Icomey waits.
(12:21:51 AM) bladez740: ok, so, she was feeling pretty bad maybe a week ago
(12:21:54 AM) bladez740: went to sleep
(12:22:05 AM) bladez740: and so I sent her this email, maybe to cheer her up
(12:22:07 AM) bladez740: http://pastebin.ca/988104
(12:22:32 AM) Icomey: I'm loading nothing.
(12:22:52 AM) bladez740: try refreshing.
(12:23:01 AM) Icomey: Ah, got it now.
(12:23:20 AM) bladez740: anyway, the response back was "Thank you so much EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>"
(12:25:10 AM) Icomey: :)
(12:25:26 AM) Icomey: That sounds like a good sign.
(12:27:25 AM) Icomey: Hm...
(12:28:05 AM) bladez740: not as much as you'd think.  EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE> is a fairly standard occurance in our conversations.
(12:28:52 AM) Icomey: Okay... well, hm... I don't know...
(12:30:13 AM) bladez740: way to not have advice.
(12:30:38 AM) Icomey: Yeah...
(12:30:56 AM) bladez740: at least give me some advice to disregard.
(12:30:58 AM) Icomey: Only thing I can say is do what you think you should do.
(12:31:33 AM) bladez740: no, because what I think I should do has always been wrong.