*** Logfile started *** on Mon Apr 21 17:12:26 2008 [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:26] Join You have joined the channel #ircnomic (n=ais523@ar01-fap04.bham.ac.uk). [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:26] Topic The channel topic is "Sine, but turn left before the bathroom. | Rules as of not long ago: http://pastebin.ca/991443". [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:26] Topic The topic was set by ihope on 04/21/2008 01:29:09 AM. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:26] Mode Channel modes: secret, no messages from outside [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:26] Created This channel was created on 04/20/2008 08:18:20 PM. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:37] hi ais523 [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:12:42] hi [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:04] I'm allowed to say that, right? I haven't read the rules yet, I hope they aren't Mao-style [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:33] No speech restricting rules that I know of [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:37] Join ehird has joined this channel (n=ehird@91.105.122.127). [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:45] hi oklopol [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:48] I got rid of the managing script I wrote a minute ago. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:49] hiehird [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:49] no, there aren't, that's a relief [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:13:54] I can rewrite it if anyone has a PHP host. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:14:13] The pastebin won't load for me [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:14:55] ehird: my laptop can do that, but it isn't always-on and it's behind a firewall I'm not allowed to configure that blocks all ports from external connectoins to them AFAIK [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:16] ais523: Then that is quite unhelpful [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:19] I can set up a server I guess. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:33] Ah wait, if I do it, I can just write it quickly in Python. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:35] Coolio. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:42] Sgeo: join ircnomic-flood and I'll send you the rules over IRC [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:15:51] s/ircnomic-flood/ #ircnomic-flood / [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:16:19] that is, according to the pastebin [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:16:25] I won't do it here because that would be flooding [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:17:12] wel [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:17:17] i am about to move it to a web interface [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:17:19] so i see little point [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:17:19] :-) [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:22:57] I want to note that negative rules just require 3 proposals, which could presumably be done at once [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:23:06] (re: kyevan's proposals) [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:23:27] kyevan's look good, there are a couple of extra rules which would likely be needed as well for sanity [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:23:29] Instead of being a safeguard for rules [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:23:31] in the negatives, that is [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:23:58] should we wait for ehird's web interface first? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:02] It would be little extra effort to change a negative rule, just 50%+1 of the vote [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:06] most likely, i'm almost done [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:10] ais523: though my interface will be basic [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:12] to start with [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:16] ehird: that's fine [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:17] it'll just be for the game manager [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:20] to edit/delete/add [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:24] voting would be handled here [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:29] it would just be a viewing & password-editing interface [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:33] I went and wrote a Perl/mySQL login and create account, just for practice [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:41] but it isn't running anywhere but localhost [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:24:51] it does do hashed and salted passwords, though [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:31:17] http://blog.slepp.ca/2008/02/26/automated-pastebin-post-removal/ oO [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:31:43] Sgeo: Hahaha what [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:32:06] * ehird goes and does that to all the pastes up [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:32:41] Sgeo: I just deleted a post! [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:32:41] Fun [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:32:42] There's a set limit a day.. although that can probably be worked around [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:33:36] What's the point? Ability to remove pastes with personal information? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:34:57] Sgeo: Probably, yeah [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:35:25] At first I thought it was to remove spam posts, which would be an amazing WTF [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:35:48] Sgeo: why? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:36:33] ais523, if you're going to CAPTCHA removals, and rely on people to remove spam, why not CAPTCHA posts instead, and not give random people the ability to remove posts? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:36:41] OK [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:37:08] I missed the CAPTtttCaHA thing [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:38:55] CAPTtttCaHA [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:39:07] Although the site provides APIs, which would not go well with a CAPTCHA, I guess [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:43:53] Okay. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:43:55] I should have it working. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:44:34] ehird: link? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:44:41] ais523: Almost. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:44:43] BTW, I noticed the C-INTERCAL mirrors on eso-std.org [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:45:09] ais523: That just mirrors elliotthird.org [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:45:11] Right now [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:45:12] :-) [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:45:14] ah [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:45:31] which is why the ridiculous front page is the same [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:53:34] OKAY [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:53:39] Topic ehird sets the channel topic to "Sine, but turn left before the bathroom. | Rules at http://91.105.122.127/". [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:55:41] Okay [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:55:44] it went down [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:55:45] but it's back up [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:55:59] Sgeo: kyevan: Check it out. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:00] :P [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:03] empty yet [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:14] yes [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:18] should I import the rules from the paste that was hear earlier? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:20] ais523: try importing the rules from the pastebin [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:21] yeah [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:32] two people other than me agree, and I will [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:42] oh sheesh [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:43] :) [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:49] Sgeo: kyevan: Say yes. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:56:56] yes [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:57:12] OK [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:57:47] ais523: Note that if you remove rule 3, [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:57:50] every rule after it will shift up a number. [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:57:56] also [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:57:58] don't include "Rule 1:" [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:58:00] the system does that for you [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:58:07] you didn't tell me... [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:58:12] fixed for you [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:58:12] ;) [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:58:56] Rule 3 will be hard to transcribe! [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:59:15] ais523: also, html is allowed in rules [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:59:17] just incase that's helpful :P [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:59:22] Wait, are all these rules integer numbers? [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:59:26] That's not in the rules! [Mon Apr 21 2008] [17:59:32] this means I can put