06:19 <+     DrLupine | > dev_: my grandfather.. you know what he wanted to be buried with?  his old stripes..  So his stars were ceromonially removed, and his sgt strips returned at his service. And none of his medals. Why? 
                          He always said he didn't earn them. His boys earned em for him. 
06:19 <+         rond | > Dev_ why do you assume things so quickly about other people after having read only a few comments from them on IRC
06:19 <+     DrLupine | > impotent?
06:20 <+       kyomei | > or his past?
06:20 <+    RustyFord | > KINSHASA (Reuters) - Police in Congo have arrested 13 suspected sorcerers accused of using black magic to steal or shrink men's penises after a wave of panic and attempted lynchings triggered by the 
                          alleged witchcraft.
06:20 <@    CometBaby | > kerry never did release his military records
06:20 <@    CometBaby | > and he didn’t want us to remember how he defended clintons draft doging
06:20 <@    CometBaby | > dev called him a hero and tried to compare him to McCain .. who is a real hero.
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06:20 <+    RustyFord | > LOL!
06:20 <+     DrLupine | > CometBaby: and you know what? McCain doesn't brag about his medals.
06:20 <@    CometBaby | > kyomei why don't you pay attention instead of asking questions that you would know about if you were reading.
06:20 <+         dev_ | > sure they did DrLupine, and my great grandmother started women's suffrance and my father singlehandedly beat back the germans at stalingrad
06:20 <+         rond | > dev_ you are a complete ass
06:20 <+       kyomei | > so maybe he is a dipshit and a liar - does that make him exceptional in his field and worthy of so much bullshitting?
06:20 <+     DrLupine | > dev_: Do you know who Guy Gabaldon is?
06:20 <+         dev_ | > er, suffrage
06:21 <+         rond | > no wonder you were booted on here already once this morning
06:21 <+     DrLupine | > single handedly captured over a thousand japanese soldiers on Saipan
06:21 <+     DrLupine | > You know, I never once heard him bragging about his medals.
06:21 <+         dev_ | > DrLupine: I'm glad you read wikipedia, but you're not related to him
06:21 <+       kyomei | > from what i can tell from the attention ive paid is that the issue is whether he is a hero or a goat
06:22 <@    CometBaby | > kyomei .. yeah we know its difficult for you
06:22 <+     DrLupine | > dev_ No, I am not "related to him". He was a life long buddy of my grandfather and my family.  We were at his funeral 
06:22 <+       kyomei | > i must have missed where people where talking about why that is important today?
06:22 <+     DrLupine | > dev_ but the point is.. real heroes never bragged about their medals.
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06:22 <@    CometBaby | >  kyomei You've just had your cyber-tongue torn out!
06:22 <+         dev_ | > But your grandfather isn't a hero because he's just doing his job
06:22 <@    CometBaby | > wiseguy
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06:23 <+     DrLupine | > dev_ he's a hero in my book because he is my grandfather and who he was.. not because he had a chest full of medals
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06:23 <+     DrLupine | > hero's dont need medals
06:23 <@    CometBaby | > amen